[meteorite-list] NWA 801

From: Jeff Grossman <jgrossman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:32 2004
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030810154240.01e754f0_at_gsvaresm02.er.usgs.gov>

We consider the classifier and the owner to be a team, for all intents and=
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purposes. However, if a researcher wants to publish, it becomes his or her=
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responsibility to make sure that approval has been granted.

I'll have to look into Begaa tomorrow.

jeff

At 08:56 PM 8/10/2003 +0200, Alexander Seidel wrote:
>Just curious:
>
>Is it the classifying institute=B4s responsibility to submit a completed
>classification to the NomCom "in time" to get ready for future work,
>or is it the responsibility of the dealer/finder/supplier to do so,
>when he knows of any results from the analysing institute? Or is this
>a sort of a nonsense question, from the viewpoint of the NomCom... :-)
>
>Btw: this is, what I was thinking of when I made that P.S. remark
>about that "Begaa" stone with my last post.
>
>Alex
>Berlin, Germany
>
>Jeff Grossman wrote:
> >
> > This meteorite is listed in the Provisional Names page:
> > http://meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/prov-names.html
> >
> > It appears to be a Farmer meteorite with type specimen at UCLA. As of=
 last
> > spring, nobody had submitted a classification to the NomCom. Perhaps is
> > has come in since, but no vote has occurred. Despite the "official"
> > reference, the meteorite name remains unofficial. A few abstracts in=
 this
> > conference reference unapproved meteorites. Next year, firm guidelines
> > will be in place that we hope will prevent this from happening any more.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > At 08:18 PM 8/10/2003 +0200, Alexander Seidel wrote:
> > >This meteorite is also missing in the very latest update of MetBase,
> > >version 6.0, just a few days ago released by it=B4s author Joern
> > >Koblitz, who is one of the members of the NomCom of the Meteoritical
> > >Society. In fact, there is a gap in the NWA datasets counting from NWA
> > >780 to NWA 816, and there are probably other gaps, too, in all the
> > >numbers known so far. This surely is for good reason and perhaps Jeff
> > >Grossman may comment on this, if he likes to do so.
> > >
> > >Alex
> > >Berlin, Germany
> > >
> > >P.S., on a side note: I wonder why that meteorite once inofficially
> > >sold under the name of "Begaa" never found it=B4s way into the official
> > >list of the NomCom, very probably as some new NWA xxxx. Something went
> > >badly wrong, as the main mass holders recently told me this was
> > >classified to be an LL3.2 (!) by a well-known scientist in Paris, but
> > >despite the fact that there is a big TKW and this meteorite seems to
> > >be widely distributed in collections (by virtue of it=B4s beauty with
> > >all those pristine chondrules alone, similar to e.g. Krymka), nobody
> > >seems to have really cared to make this available to the scientific
> > >field, which, of course, and for good reasons again, only accepts
> > >material that has been accepted by the NomCom.
> > >
> > >Sharkkb8_at_aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > NWA 801 is available as a CR2, and looks like a pretty and
> > > > interesting meteorite - but unless I'm missing something, it still
> > > > has not been officially recognized in a MetSoc Bulletin. I did
> > > > find an "official" mention of it here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2003/pdf/5238.pdf
> > > >
> > > > .....but it's just that specimens were studied for a copper isotope
> > > > examination, listed as part of the 66th Annual MetSoc meeting in
> > > > 2003.
> > > >
> > > > The 801 number would suggest it goes back to 2001 or so, anyone know
> > > > why it seems to have been passed over for official
> > > > recognition/publication? Also wanting to know who classified it,
> > > > and when, and where....?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks -
> > > >
> > > > Gregory
> > >
> > >
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