[meteorite-list] Elma Status?

From: Steve Schoner <steve_schoner_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:30 2004
Message-ID: <20030807142648.6668.qmail_at_web12703.mail.yahoo.com>

>From what I see regarding this subject, no one on this
list has said that it is a meteorite.

But they are "scientifically" inclined enough to
continue with the question.

"What is it?"

Tests, I assume are being done, and that question will
be resolved.

Steve Schoner/ams



--- Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_concentric.net> wrote:
> Well, It CANNOT be a tekite, tektites are made by
> large impacts melting the
> impacted rock. these were found in a telephone pole!
> My god, every telephone
> pole I have ever seen is covered in tar or whatever
> weird melted black stuff
> they use, sort of like tar on house roofs, which I
> believe that the Hupes
> also "found" in the debris from my printer-smashing
> Park Forest. HMMMM tiny
> little melted tektites found on the floor under the
> smashed shingles and
> tarred roof, more little melted glass like
> "tektites" found in and round a
> telephone pole at the site of a stupid hoax that got
> way more attention than
> it should have. I see a curious pattern forming
> here. Maybe there were some
> "bugs" smashed into the tar so we have little
> "spidy" creatures like the
> Frass meteorite.
> Charles. I have never heard of you, but I
> assure you that I know just
> a tad more than you might think, and I assure you
> that this is a waste of
> scientific time.
> It defies the most simple things that we know about
> meteorites, thus making
> it bogus.
>
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles R. Viau" <cviau_at_beld.net>
> To: "'Michael Farmer'" <farmerm_at_concentric.net>;
> "'Adam Hupe'"
> <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>;
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>
>
> > Given the reputation of the people examining this
> stuff, how busy they
> > are, and the amount of time they are willing to
> spend on this - It's not
> > crap. It is probably more related to a tektite
> than anything else if one
> > were to summon up a simile , and how did pieces of
> this wind up embedded
> > in a telephone pole? - I think the Hupe brothers ,
> as well as the PhD's
> > in those labs are doing their job because they
> believe there is
> > scientific merit in doing so, and no matter what
> the outcome, they need
> > to know what it is because it passed through the
> filters that would have
> > tossed 'crap' out 2 weeks ago. Perhaps, if you had
> some of this stuff
> > you might feel different.
> >
> > Charlyv
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael
> > Farmer
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:35 PM
> > To: Adam Hupe; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> >
> > Give me a break people, this is retarded. Yep, YE
> HAA PA saw that there
> > little glass chunks fall out of the sky and they
> burnded my hands two
> > weeks
> > later!
> > Why waste time on this crap.
> > Mike Farmer
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > No glass manufacturing process would use this
> kind of sand because of
> > it
> > > impurities and why would glass be spread into a
> shot-put pit where
> > kids
> > > could get cut on the sharp edges? I am not
> going to speculate too
> > much
> > more
> > > until we get more lab results. Two other labs
> have weighed in on this
> > > occurrence and it just keeps getting odder.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tom aka James Knudson"
> <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
> > > To: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>;
> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello All, How about a glass manufacturing
> bi-product?
> > > > Thanks, Tom
> > > > Peregrineflier <><
> > > > The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:08 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Tom and List,
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem with this material is that it
> does not contain any
> > metal.
> > > If
> > > > it
> > > > > was in a reducing environment why isn't
> there any metal, even at
> > > > microprobe
> > > > > levels? This almost certainly eliminates
> this material coming
> > from an
> > > > > industrial process, at least none that I
> have ever heard of. If
> > it
> > came
> > > > > from a foundry why wasn't the sand melted in
> the center. The sand
> > is
> > > also
> > > > > trapped in sealed vesicles, that look almost
> like chondrules, like
> > a
> > > > > condensation product, which is extremely
> odd. It was extremely
> > > difficult
> > > > to
> > > > > make thin-sections of this stuff because of
> the friability of the
> > > material
> > > > > trapped inside.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will update as we get more results,
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Tom aka James Knudson"
> <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
> > > > > To: "mafer" <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>; "Adam
> Hupe"
> > <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > > > > Cc: "meteor central"
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello All, This Elma stuff sounds like a
> metal casting
> > bi-product
> > from
> > > a
> > > > > > foundry. Is there a foundry in our around
> Elma?
> > > > > > Thanks, Tom
> > > > > > Peregrineflier <><
> > > > > > The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: mafer <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>
> > > > > > To: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > > > > > Cc: meteor central
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:30 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > fulguritic? given a sighting of a
> smoking trail and smoldering
> > > pieces
>
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Received on Thu 07 Aug 2003 10:26:48 AM PDT