[meteorite-list] Park Forest Saga continues.

From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:10 2004
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"could be"? Of course it is a smasher. Ill have the website up today, =
showing the damage the stone did. All of you who paypaled me are getting =
pieces of this particular stone, sho congratulations.=20
Mike Farmer
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Adam Hupe=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Saga continues.


  Hello Mike, Hello List,

  If this is the same stone that dented the street and damaged the =
siding on the house I guess it could be called a "Hammer" or "Smasher" =
bringing $45.00 a gram on the open market. This would make the 116 gram =
end cut worth over $5,000.00, looks like somebody is "Going to =
Disneyland" =20

  Best Regards,

  Adam

  P.S. I would get a receipt for your most generous "DONATION." Since =
you are a business I would file a 1099 misc form mentioning the =
receiving party since it is valued over $5,000.00, if applicable, to =
make the IRS aware of somebody else's sudden windfall and let the =
revenuers have a shot at it.=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Michael Farmer=20
    To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 4:44 PM
    Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Saga continues.


    Hello everyone. I am announcing a bit of news about Park Forest.=20
    I have been in negotiations with the Park Forest police dept for the =
last two weeks regarding the meteorite from Winslow St. I purchased 1/2 =
kilo of fragments from the owners, including the main mass, shortly =
after the fall.
    The owner had called the police when the fragments showered their =
house and car doing damage to both. The stone had impacted the street =
and apparently shattered, with most landing on the homeowners porch. =
They called the police and the police took the meteorites that night as =
evidence. When I went to Park Forest the next day, I made them offers =
and they went to the police and retrieved the specimens. I bought over =
500 grams of fragments.=20
     One week later, the police chief contacted me in Tucson and =
demanded the meteorites back, saying that they were stolen property and =
belonged to the city. I told them how hard I found that to believe since =
they landed on the peoples property and damaged their home and car, and =
the police had relinquished it back to the homeowner. He told me that =
they didn't care, that now that the police knew the value, that they =
wanted them back, and that they were only going to go after my since I =
had the largest pieces. They did not care that almost 10 other people =
got specimens from the Winslow Street meteorite, they just wanted my =
pieces back. I refused and forgot the matter. Then they contacted me =
again this week and demanded the stones back or they would start legal =
action against me!=20
        Well, what I am here to announce is that I have made a binding =
agreement with the Park Forest police Dept. I am giving them the endcut =
of the largest piece, and they are relinquishing all rights to any other =
pieces from that specimen. Unfortunately, I must give back a 116 gram =
endcut to the city. I paid several thousand dollars for the pieces and =
will get no compensation from the city. We decided that I would "DONATE" =
the specimen back to the city and they would allow me to keep the rest =
of the pieces. =20
        I am so offended that I had to do this, that I was the only =
target, even though they knew about so many other pieces. My attorney =
told me that undoubtedly I would prevail in any court case, but we =
decided that it was in my best interests to negotiate a quick settlement =
to avoid the hassle of the police.=20
        I am just warning people that even in America, sometimes due =
process is a joke. In order to save myself the problems, I just had to =
give in and submit to the police demands.=20
    Since this problem is solved, I have completed cutting the remaining =
pieces and will ship them to all the buyers tomorrow. This is one reason =
that many of you have not received your pieces yet.=20
        Does anyone have anything to input regarding the treatment by =
the Park Forest Police?=20
    I am not so sure that they want this piece back for the city, so I =
am taking it back personally and want to present it to the city council, =
NOT the police dept. If anyone is offered this endcut for sale by the =
police, PLEASE let us all know.=20

    Mike Farmer

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"could be"? Of course it is a smasher. =
Ill have the=20
website up today, showing the damage the stone did. All of you who =
paypaled me=20
are getting pieces of this particular stone, sho congratulations. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com href=3D"mailto:adamhupe@attbi.com">Adam =
Hupe</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 21, 2003 =
9:57=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Park Forest=20
  Saga continues.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Mike, Hello List,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If this is the same stone that dented =
the street=20
  and damaged the siding on the house I guess it could be called a =
"Hammer" or=20
  "Smasher" bringing $45.00 a gram on the open market.&nbsp; This would =
make the=20
  116 gram end cut worth over $5,000.00, looks like somebody is "Going =
to=20
  Disneyland"&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. I would get a receipt for your =
most generous=20
  "DONATION."&nbsp; Since you are a business I would file a 1099 misc =
form=20
  mentioning the receiving party since it is valued over $5,000.00, if=20
  applicable, to make the IRS aware of somebody else's sudden windfall =
and let=20
  the revenuers have a shot at it. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net =
href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net">Michael=20
    Farmer</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 20, 2003 =
4:44=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] =
Park Forest=20
    Saga continues.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello everyone. I am announcing a =
bit of news=20
    about Park Forest. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been in negotiations with =
the Park=20
    Forest police dept for the last two weeks regarding the meteorite =
from=20
    Winslow St. I purchased 1/2 kilo of fragments from the owners, =
including the=20
    main mass, shortly after the fall.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The owner had called the police =
when the=20
    fragments showered their house and car doing damage to both. The =
stone had=20
    impacted the street and apparently shattered, with most landing on =
the=20
    homeowners porch. They called the police and the police took the =
meteorites=20
    that night as evidence. When I went to Park Forest the next day, I =
made them=20
    offers and they went to the police and retrieved the specimens. I =
bought=20
    over 500 grams of fragments. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;One week later, the police =
chief=20
    contacted me in Tucson and demanded the meteorites back, saying that =
they=20
    were stolen property and belonged to the city. I told them how hard =
I found=20
    that to believe since they landed on the peoples property and =
damaged their=20
    home and car, and the police had relinquished it back to the =
homeowner. He=20
    told me that they didn't care, that now that the police knew the =
value, that=20
    they wanted them back, and that they were only going to go after my =
since I=20
    had the largest pieces. They did not care that almost 10 other =
people got=20
    specimens from the Winslow Street meteorite, they just wanted my =
pieces=20
    back. I refused and forgot the matter. Then they contacted me again =
this=20
    week and demanded the stones back or they would start legal action =
against=20
    me! </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, what I am =
here to=20
    announce is that I have made a binding agreement with the Park =
Forest police=20
    Dept. I am giving them the endcut of the largest piece, and they are =

    relinquishing all rights to any other pieces from that specimen.=20
    Unfortunately, I must give back a 116 gram endcut to the city. I =
paid=20
    several thousand dollars for the pieces and will get no compensation =
from=20
    the city. We decided that I would "DONATE" the specimen back to the =
city and=20
    they would allow me to keep the rest of the pieces.&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am so offended =
that I had=20
    to do this, that I was the only target, even though they knew about =
so many=20
    other pieces. My attorney told me that undoubtedly I would prevail =
in any=20
    court case, but we decided that it was in my best interests to =
negotiate a=20
    quick settlement to avoid the hassle of the police. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am just =
warning people=20
    that even in America, sometimes due process is a joke. In order to =
save=20
    myself the problems, I just had to give in and submit to the police =
demands.=20
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since this problem is solved, I =
have completed=20
    cutting the remaining pieces and will ship them to all the buyers =
tomorrow.=20
    This is one reason that many of you have not received your pieces =
yet.=20
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anyone have =
anything to=20
    input regarding the treatment by the Park Forest Police? =
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not so sure that they want =
this piece back=20
    for the city, so I am taking it back personally and want to present =
it to=20
    the city council, NOT the police dept. If anyone is offered this =
endcut for=20
    sale by the police, PLEASE let us all know. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike=20
Farmer</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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