[meteorite-list] Park Forest Saga continues.

From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:10 2004
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Hello Mike, Hello List,

If this is the same stone that dented the street and damaged the siding =
on the house I guess it could be called a "Hammer" or "Smasher" bringing =
$45.00 a gram on the open market. This would make the 116 gram end cut =
worth over $5,000.00, looks like somebody is "Going to Disneyland" =20

Best Regards,

Adam

P.S. I would get a receipt for your most generous "DONATION." Since you =
are a business I would file a 1099 misc form mentioning the receiving =
party since it is valued over $5,000.00, if applicable, to make the IRS =
aware of somebody else's sudden windfall and let the revenuers have a =
shot at it.=20


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Farmer=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 4:44 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Saga continues.


  Hello everyone. I am announcing a bit of news about Park Forest.=20
  I have been in negotiations with the Park Forest police dept for the =
last two weeks regarding the meteorite from Winslow St. I purchased 1/2 =
kilo of fragments from the owners, including the main mass, shortly =
after the fall.
  The owner had called the police when the fragments showered their =
house and car doing damage to both. The stone had impacted the street =
and apparently shattered, with most landing on the homeowners porch. =
They called the police and the police took the meteorites that night as =
evidence. When I went to Park Forest the next day, I made them offers =
and they went to the police and retrieved the specimens. I bought over =
500 grams of fragments.=20
   One week later, the police chief contacted me in Tucson and demanded =
the meteorites back, saying that they were stolen property and belonged =
to the city. I told them how hard I found that to believe since they =
landed on the peoples property and damaged their home and car, and the =
police had relinquished it back to the homeowner. He told me that they =
didn't care, that now that the police knew the value, that they wanted =
them back, and that they were only going to go after my since I had the =
largest pieces. They did not care that almost 10 other people got =
specimens from the Winslow Street meteorite, they just wanted my pieces =
back. I refused and forgot the matter. Then they contacted me again this =
week and demanded the stones back or they would start legal action =
against me!=20
      Well, what I am here to announce is that I have made a binding =
agreement with the Park Forest police Dept. I am giving them the endcut =
of the largest piece, and they are relinquishing all rights to any other =
pieces from that specimen. Unfortunately, I must give back a 116 gram =
endcut to the city. I paid several thousand dollars for the pieces and =
will get no compensation from the city. We decided that I would "DONATE" =
the specimen back to the city and they would allow me to keep the rest =
of the pieces. =20
      I am so offended that I had to do this, that I was the only =
target, even though they knew about so many other pieces. My attorney =
told me that undoubtedly I would prevail in any court case, but we =
decided that it was in my best interests to negotiate a quick settlement =
to avoid the hassle of the police.=20
      I am just warning people that even in America, sometimes due =
process is a joke. In order to save myself the problems, I just had to =
give in and submit to the police demands.=20
  Since this problem is solved, I have completed cutting the remaining =
pieces and will ship them to all the buyers tomorrow. This is one reason =
that many of you have not received your pieces yet.=20
      Does anyone have anything to input regarding the treatment by the =
Park Forest Police?=20
  I am not so sure that they want this piece back for the city, so I am =
taking it back personally and want to present it to the city council, =
NOT the police dept. If anyone is offered this endcut for sale by the =
police, PLEASE let us all know.=20
  =20
  Mike Farmer

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Mike, Hello List,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If this is the same stone that dented =
the street=20
and damaged the siding on the house I guess it could be called a =
"Hammer" or=20
"Smasher" bringing $45.00 a gram on the open market.&nbsp; This would =
make the=20
116 gram end cut worth over $5,000.00, looks like somebody is "Going to=20
Disneyland"&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. I would get a receipt for your =
most generous=20
"DONATION."&nbsp; Since you are a business I would file a 1099 misc form =

mentioning the receiving party since it is valued over $5,000.00, if =
applicable,=20
to make the IRS aware of somebody else's sudden windfall and let the =
revenuers=20
have a shot at it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" =
title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net>Michael=20
  Farmer</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20
  =
title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr=
al.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 20, 2003 =
4:44=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Park =
Forest=20
  Saga continues.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello everyone. I am announcing a bit =
of news=20
  about Park Forest. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been in negotiations with the =
Park Forest=20
  police dept for the last two weeks regarding the meteorite from =
Winslow St. I=20
  purchased 1/2 kilo of fragments from the owners, including the main =
mass,=20
  shortly after the fall.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The owner had called the police when =
the=20
  fragments showered their house and car doing damage to both. The stone =
had=20
  impacted the street and apparently shattered, with most landing on the =

  homeowners porch. They called the police and the police took the =
meteorites=20
  that night as evidence. When I went to Park Forest the next day, I =
made them=20
  offers and they went to the police and retrieved the specimens. I =
bought over=20
  500 grams of fragments. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;One week later, the police =
chief contacted=20
  me in Tucson and demanded the meteorites back, saying that they were =
stolen=20
  property and belonged to the city. I told them how hard I found that =
to=20
  believe since they landed on the peoples property and damaged their =
home and=20
  car, and the police had relinquished it back to the homeowner. He told =
me that=20
  they didn't care, that now that the police knew the value, that they =
wanted=20
  them back, and that they were only going to go after my since I had =
the=20
  largest pieces. They did not care that almost 10 other people got =
specimens=20
  from the Winslow Street meteorite, they just wanted my pieces back. I =
refused=20
  and forgot the matter. Then they contacted me again this week and =
demanded the=20
  stones back or they would start legal action against me! </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, what I am =
here to=20
  announce is that I have made a binding agreement with the Park Forest =
police=20
  Dept. I am giving them the endcut of the largest piece, and they are=20
  relinquishing all rights to any other pieces from that specimen.=20
  Unfortunately, I must give back a 116 gram endcut to the city. I paid =
several=20
  thousand dollars for the pieces and will get no compensation from the =
city. We=20
  decided that I would "DONATE" the specimen back to the city and they =
would=20
  allow me to keep the rest of the pieces.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am so offended =
that I had to=20
  do this, that I was the only target, even though they knew about so =
many other=20
  pieces. My attorney told me that undoubtedly I would prevail in any =
court=20
  case, but we decided that it was in my best interests to negotiate a =
quick=20
  settlement to avoid the hassle of the police. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am just warning =
people that=20
  even in America, sometimes due process is a joke. In order to save =
myself the=20
  problems, I just had to give in and submit to the police demands.=20
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since this problem is solved, I have =
completed=20
  cutting the remaining pieces and will ship them to all the buyers =
tomorrow.=20
  This is one reason that many of you have not received your pieces yet. =

  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anyone have =
anything to=20
  input regarding the treatment by the Park Forest Police? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not so sure that they want this =
piece back=20
  for the city, so I am taking it back personally and want to present it =
to the=20
  city council, NOT the police dept. If anyone is offered this endcut =
for sale=20
  by the police, PLEASE let us all know. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike =
Farmer</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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