[meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two
From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:04 2004 Message-ID: <00e401c2fcb0$473da0a0$83649ecd_at_S0027239467> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C2FC75.99BF75F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No I was not present, I was there when you were dismissed so that I = could finish my business. I got the ceiling that was cut out today. She = told you that I had bought the stone, you then enquired as to what I = paid, when you were told $12,000. You and Al offered $15000.00 She = declined as she has principles and the sale had been made. So again, the = problem is not the price paid but rather the fact that you tried to up = the price to snatch it away. The very thing that Michael Blood was so = very incorrectly congratulating you for NOT DOING.=20 I am not here to fight with anyone about this meteorite. I have many = pieces and the only House smasher. When and if your deal with Garza is = done, then you can claim the same thing.=20 I found 3 pieces today, Devin Schrader found one. THAT is why I am here, = this is not business for me, but rather a passion. I am soooooooooooo = happy to have found my 3 pieces.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Adam Hupe=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two Mike, I freely admitted we offered that much for a stone in my posting = called "Park Forest - The pulling of teeth". We thought this house = smasher (one of three) was still available and only offered this much = because it was a confirmed house hammer we wanted for our collection. = This bid also included everything it hit, the other half of the picture. = You were not present when we made this offer, only afterwards. You = stated to list you would never sell the specimen and now you have = offered it to two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 profit. You have = also been offering hammer stones without affidavits from the finders, = something I would rather not get into. =20 All the Best, Adam Hupe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Farmer=20 To: Adam Hupe ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two Adam, good lord, after you and AL Lang lectured me about paying too = much, you tried to snag my stone by offering $15000 for it 12 hours = later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So indeed, you did = contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you did'nt.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Adam Hupe=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two Dear List, Here we go again! I am personally glad to be home after spending = five intense days in the so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of = you who were not able to go you did not miss much. The weather was = horrible, most of the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. = My brother, Greg arrived yesterday and met up with Al Lang to pick = up an entire bedroom that had been hammered by one of these stones. We = will reconstruct the bedroom with the ceiling that had two holes punched = in it, the venetian blinds that were split down the center, a metal = windowsill with a huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, = all hit by the same meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as = he was sleeping. This collection will be displayed proudly next to the = Peekskill car in a private museum. We plan on possibly displaying the = collection at the Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. We = acquired several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and = will integrate them into another interpretive display. This represents = the world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted by = meteorites. We feel it is important to preserve these historical items = for future generations to enjoy. =20 On another note: Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in a rural area?, = maybe next time. I do not believe the prices would have been so high if = the stones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. Word spread like = wild fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices being realized = for stones that hit things. These street-smart finders then played a = lot of dealers and collectors in the field for as much money as they = could get and now everybody is paying the price. You can blame dealers = who lacked the patience to negotiate better prices and manage the = situation in a professional manner for these high prices. Instead money = was thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. I = owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called "Park Forest = - the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway to the high prices, = I apologize. I admit there were a few times when we paid more than we = should have.=20 Wishing everybody well, Adam Hupe IMCA 2185 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C2FC75.99BF75F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No I was not present, I was there when = you were=20 dismissed so that I could finish my business. I got the ceiling that was = cut out=20 today. She told you that I had bought the stone, you then enquired as to = what I=20 paid, when you were told $12,000. You and Al offered $15000.00 She = declined as=20 she has principles and the sale had been made. So again, the problem is = not the=20 price paid but rather the fact that you tried to up the price to snatch = it away.=20 The very thing that Michael Blood was so very incorrectly congratulating = you for=20 NOT DOING. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not here to fight with anyone = about this=20 meteorite. I have many pieces and the only House smasher. When and if = your deal=20 with Garza is done, then you can claim the same thing. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I found 3 pieces today, Devin Schrader = found one.=20 THAT is why I am here, this is not business for me, but rather a = passion. I am=20 soooooooooooo happy to have found my 3 pieces. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com href=3D"mailto:adamhupe@attbi.com">Adam = Hupe</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 = 7:31=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Park Forest=20 - Round Two</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I freely admitted we offered that = much for a=20 stone in my posting called "Park Forest - The pulling of teeth". = We=20 thought this house smasher (one of three) was still available and only = offered=20 this much because it was a confirmed house hammer we wanted for = our=20 collection. This bid also included everything it hit, the other = half of=20 the picture. You were not present when we made this offer, = only=20 afterwards. You stated to list you would never sell the specimen = and now=20 you have offered it to two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 = profit. =20 You have also been offering hammer stones without affidavits from = the=20 finders, something I would rather not get into. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the Best,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net = href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net">Michael=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com=20 href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com">Adam Hupe</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 = 7:18=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Park=20 Forest - Round Two</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam, good lord, after you and AL = Lang lectured=20 me about paying too much, you tried to snag my stone by offering = $15000 for=20 it 12 hours later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So = indeed, you=20 did contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you = did'nt.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com = href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com">Adam Hupe</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, = 2003 10:39=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = Park Forest=20 - Round Two</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here we go again! I am=20 personally glad to be home after spending five intense = days in=20 the so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of you who were = not=20 able to go you did not miss much. The weather was horrible, = most of=20 the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My brother, Greg arrived = yesterday and met up=20 with Al Lang to pick up an entire bedroom that had been = hammered by=20 one of these stones. We will reconstruct the bedroom = with the=20 ceiling that had two holes punched in it, the venetian=20 blinds that were split down the center, a metal windowsill = with a=20 huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, all hit by the = same=20 meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as he was = sleeping. =20 This collection will be displayed proudly next to the Peekskill = car in a=20 private museum. We plan on possibly displaying the = collection at the=20 Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. We = acquired=20 several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and = will=20 integrate them into another interpretive display. This = represents the=20 world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted=20 by meteorites. We feel it is important to preserve = these=20 historical items for future generations to = enjoy. =20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On another note:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why couldn't the meteorite have = landed=20 somewhere in a rural area?, maybe next time. I do not = believe the=20 prices would have been so high if the stones where recovered by = farmers=20 and ranch-hands. Word spread like wild fire in the Park = Forest=20 neighborhood about prices being realized for stones that hit = things. =20 These street-smart finders then played a lot of dealers and = collectors in=20 the field for as much money as they could get and now everybody=20 is paying the price. You can blame dealers who = lacked the=20 patience to negotiate better prices and manage the situation in a=20 professional manner for these high prices. Instead = money was=20 thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding = frenzy. =20 I owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called = "Park=20 Forest - the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway = to the=20 high prices, I apologize. I admit there were a few times = when=20 we paid more than we should have. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wishing everybody = well,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>IMCA 2185</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20 </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C2FC75.99BF75F0-- Received on Sun 06 Apr 2003 10:49:14 PM PDT |
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