[meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two
From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:04 2004 Message-ID: <016b01c2fcad$cbaab7e0$b4dbe60c_at_attbi.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01C2FC73.1EE72AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, I freely admitted we offered that much for a stone in my posting called = "Park Forest - The pulling of teeth". We thought this house smasher = (one of three) was still available and only offered this much because it = was a confirmed house hammer we wanted for our collection. This bid = also included everything it hit, the other half of the picture. You = were not present when we made this offer, only afterwards. You stated = to list you would never sell the specimen and now you have offered it to = two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 profit. You have also been = offering hammer stones without affidavits from the finders, something I = would rather not get into. =20 All the Best, Adam Hupe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Farmer=20 To: Adam Hupe ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two Adam, good lord, after you and AL Lang lectured me about paying too = much, you tried to snag my stone by offering $15000 for it 12 hours = later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So indeed, you did = contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you did'nt.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Adam Hupe=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two Dear List, Here we go again! I am personally glad to be home after spending = five intense days in the so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of = you who were not able to go you did not miss much. The weather was = horrible, most of the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. = =20 My brother, Greg arrived yesterday and met up with Al Lang to pick = up an entire bedroom that had been hammered by one of these stones. We = will reconstruct the bedroom with the ceiling that had two holes punched = in it, the venetian blinds that were split down the center, a metal = windowsill with a huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, = all hit by the same meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as = he was sleeping. This collection will be displayed proudly next to the = Peekskill car in a private museum. We plan on possibly displaying the = collection at the Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. We = acquired several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and = will integrate them into another interpretive display. This represents = the world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted by = meteorites. We feel it is important to preserve these historical items = for future generations to enjoy. =20 =20 On another note: Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in a rural area?, = maybe next time. I do not believe the prices would have been so high if = the stones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. Word spread like = wild fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices being realized = for stones that hit things. These street-smart finders then played a = lot of dealers and collectors in the field for as much money as they = could get and now everybody is paying the price. You can blame dealers = who lacked the patience to negotiate better prices and manage the = situation in a professional manner for these high prices. Instead money = was thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. I = owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called "Park Forest = - the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway to the high prices, = I apologize. I admit there were a few times when we paid more than we = should have.=20 =20 Wishing everybody well, =20 Adam Hupe IMCA 2185 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01C2FC73.1EE72AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I freely admitted we offered that much = for a stone=20 in my posting called "Park Forest - The pulling of teeth". We = thought this=20 house smasher (one of three) was still available and only offered this = much=20 because it was a confirmed house hammer we wanted for our = collection. =20 This bid also included everything it hit, the other half of the=20 picture. You were not present when we made this offer, only=20 afterwards. You stated to list you would never sell the specimen = and now=20 you have offered it to two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 = profit. =20 You have also been offering hammer stones without affidavits from = the=20 finders, something I would rather not get into. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the Best,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" = title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net>Michael=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com"=20 title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com>Adam Hupe</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 = 7:18=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Park Forest=20 - Round Two</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam, good lord, after you and AL = Lang lectured=20 me about paying too much, you tried to snag my stone by offering = $15000 for it=20 12 hours later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So indeed, = you did=20 contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you did'nt.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com" = title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com>Adam Hupe</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 = 10:39=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = Park Forest -=20 Round Two</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here we go again! I am=20 personally glad to be home after spending five intense = days in the=20 so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of you who were not = able to=20 go you did not miss much. The weather was horrible, most of = the=20 neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My brother, Greg arrived yesterday = and met up=20 with Al Lang to pick up an entire bedroom that had been = hammered by one=20 of these stones. We will reconstruct the bedroom with the = ceiling=20 that had two holes punched in it, the venetian blinds that = were=20 split down the center, a metal windowsill with a huge impact crater = and a=20 mirror that was shattered, all hit by the same meteorite that = thankfully=20 missed a boy by inches as he was sleeping. This collection = will be=20 displayed proudly next to the Peekskill car in a private = museum. We=20 plan on possibly displaying the collection at the Tucson show next = year if=20 there is enough interest. We acquired several other impacted = items=20 from all over the strewn field and will integrate them into another=20 interpretive display. This represents the world's largest = collection of=20 man-made objects impacted by meteorites. We feel it = is=20 important to preserve these historical items for future generations = to=20 enjoy. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On another note:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why couldn't the meteorite have = landed=20 somewhere in a rural area?, maybe next time. I do not believe = the=20 prices would have been so high if the stones where recovered by = farmers and=20 ranch-hands. Word spread like wild fire in the Park Forest=20 neighborhood about prices being realized for stones that hit = things. =20 These street-smart finders then played a lot of dealers and = collectors in=20 the field for as much money as they could get and now everybody=20 is paying the price. You can blame dealers who = lacked the=20 patience to negotiate better prices and manage the situation in a=20 professional manner for these high prices. Instead money = was=20 thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. = I owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called = "Park=20 Forest - the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway to = the high=20 prices, I apologize. I admit there were a few times when = we paid=20 more than we should have. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wishing everybody = well,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>IMCA 2185</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20 </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01C2FC73.1EE72AA0-- Received on Sun 06 Apr 2003 10:31:28 PM PDT |
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