[meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)

From: azaware <azaware_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:07:00 2004
Message-ID: <004e01c27276$7c6079c0$0101a8c0_at_msn.net>

This is the last word from me on this subject. I dare you or any others to
take Norton "test drive" virus protection program, which requires giving
them your email, address and see what happens (but as a friend I strongly
advise not to do this). The last virus I got on my computer was from this
list. Jonathan said something about viruses, so I put my thought on the
subject. This doesn't have anything to do with meteorite, but it does have
something to do with people sending viruses on this list. My point is simple
someone getting paid to spend everyday trying to infected computers. It's
not even new viruses; it's the some old ones they keep sending over and
over. I'm not saying don't buy the Norton Antivirus program. At this point
you have to have something. But if these companies ever get caught maybe we
might get are money back.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Miconi" <mam602_at_cox.net>
To: "azaware" <azaware_at_msn.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)


> Bill Clinton is an idiot and he was stupid enough to believe that his
cigar
> stroking intern could keep a secret.
> I was not belittling anyone in particular just making a broad statement
> about society.
>
> Why does it always seem to be a conspiracy to those that fail to do the
> simplest of things to prevent the worse of things?
> In most cases this world would rather believe in what is not possible
> instead of doing what is most practical.
> I suppose that the oil companies force you to drive more by making
anywhere
> you need to go farther away from you so you can consume more gasoline, and
> when your house was built they were there to be sure it was not properly
> insulated and now make the winters colder so you use more fuel oil?
>
> Maybe the bread companies created mold. Think that battery companies
planned
> on their product wearing out? Could be that doctors actually help the
> cigarette makers, and dentists created gingivitus in a secret lab?
>
> But if you want to believe that Symantec is actually creating viruses so
> they can sell you software that is your right.
>
> My suggestion is that you drain your bathtub and not re-use the water.
>
> And learn your name so you can sign your posts....
>
> Mark M.
> Phoenix Arizona
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: azaware <azaware_at_msn.com>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
>
>
> > Oh no not another Norton employee. You sound like you graduated from
the
> > school of Bill Clinton, belittle the messenger.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Miconi" <mam602_at_cox.net>
> > To: "azaware" <azaware_at_msn.com>
> > Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
> >
> >
> > > Having worked in the computer industry for almost 16 years I can tell
> you
> > > that viruses and their spread are the product of 2 things in this
order:
> > >
> > > 1). Computer experts that have nothing better to do then find a way to
> > show
> > > their talent by creating a virus.
> > > 2). Malicious individuals that seek to cause havoc for various
reasons.
> > >
> > > The reason that they are so prolific and spread so easily is that most
> of
> > > the users in this world are ignorant enough to believe that they will
> > never
> > > be infected. These are the same individuals that fall for telephone
> scams,
> > > buy the Banjo Minnow, and believe that they can swallow a pill and
lose
> 50
> > > pounds in 6 weeks. These people are found in the dictionary....look
> under
> > > clueless and victims for pictures.
> > >
> > > Anyone that would even begin to believe that a company like
> > > Symantec(Nortons) would deliberately create a virus to sell their
> product
> > > regularly drink their own bath water and have a family tree that does
> not
> > > branch.
> > >
> > > With the general public walking about so completely clueless it would
be
> a
> > > waste of capital for a company to invest in a R & D program to create
> > > something that already is being made for free and that the mainstream
> > > population is so willing to spread.
> > >
> > > There is a moral to all of this....Milk does not come from a jug,
crime
> is
> > > not something that happens to your neighbor and being on the internet
> > > without virus protection is just plain stupid.
> > >
> > > Mark M.
> > > Arizona
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: azaware <azaware_at_msn.com>
> > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Below is a weeks worth of emails sent to me with viruses. I will
grant
> > you
> > > > there really are some real lunatics out there, but what are we
talking
> > > about
> > > > a couple ok 5 all right 10 a week. The reason I get so many is
because
> > > this
> > > > Email is 7 years old, so I'm on every kind of list out there. I
> remember
> > > > when we didn't have viruses or Norton and now we have Norton and
> > viruses.
> > > I
> > > > wouldn't be surprise if Norton the company were started from the
guys
> > who
> > > > started sending virus. I remember the first viruses, I can see it
now
> > the
> > > > guy thought wow I can give this guy a virus then he can call me to
fix
> > it.
> > > > And now you can call Norton on the phone and for $35 + $99 will help
> you
> > > get
> > > > it off. You almost sound like you work for Norton and this is
> something
> > > > Norton would not want to get around, because until now they was this
> > great
> > > > savor. Ok have the big guy at Norton give me a call I could be quit
> for
> > a
> > > > price! Other wise I going to expose those s.o.b's. Now you see all
> these
> > > > emails. I hardly think kids or these other people are going to go to
> > this
> > > > great length to take the time to send out this many viruses with all
> > these
> > > > different email address.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > bogdanka_at_polj.ns.ac.yu
> > > > susan49842_at_hud.ac.uk
> > > > love_at_friends.org
> > > > kb922p_at_mailpride.com
> > > > mppmg_at_bolt.com
> > > > greg8835_at_yahoo.com
> > > > txbtm_at_care2.com
> > > > notbyyou_at_yahoo.com
> > > > toall_at_mce.co.jp
> > > > ptrkm8_at_lycos.com
> > > > bmw0mr09348r_at_hotmail.com
> > > > dnmle_at_ea.o
> > > > KIMMY_at_msn.com
> > > > test_at_hotbot.com
> > > > freeser_at_hotpop.com
> > > > smeer_at_bbs.mtlebanon.k12.pa.us
> > > > Trifecta01.10_at_reply.mb00.net
> > > > jhall_at_linkii.com
> > > > aaffds3_at_yahoo.com
> > > > abamba_at_nesda.org
> > > > jclgSam_at_mail.com
> > > > liveandnasty_at_email.com
> > > > optindeals.12_at_reply.mb00.net
> > > > jej_220021458_at_msn.com
> > > > Trifecta01.17_at_reply.mb00.net
> > > > Kelly.Evens4648_at_eudoramail.com
> > > > urggralbo56_at_rocketmail.com
> > > > danwilder_at_arabia.com
> > > > loliulretnamt_at_hotmail.com
> > > > vhypnosis_at_yahoo.com
> > > > kjjked333_at_qualitymail.com
> > > > optindeals.11_at_reply.mb00.net
> > > > freescreensaver_at_love4u.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> > > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:18 AM
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Ken, Kim and List:
> > > > >
> > > > > I realize this is more than a little OT and probably wasting some
> > > > > people's time -- so I apologize in advance -- but I just couldn't
> > > > > resist. Of all the weird things I've seen on the M-List (and there
> > > > > have been plenty), accusing Symantec of creating new viruses in
> order
> > > > > to sell their own products is one of the nuttiest . . . right up
> > > > > there with the Frass meteorite even!
> > > > >
> > > > > Kim posted:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Norton has to behind this, who else is making out.
> > > > > > Norton paying these guys to this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken posted:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I agree with you, Norton was behind this!
> > > > > >I vowed then and there not to buy their product!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > People create viruses for all sorts of reasons: Kids do it for
fun;
> > > > > anarchists do it because it's anarchistic; hackers target
companies
> > > > > they don't like; disgruntled employees ditto; and so on. In the
> > > > > hacker subculture it is a major status symbol to have created a
> virus
> > > > > that's caused international mayhem. You may not have encountered
> > > > > these types of characters in real life but I have, and I assure
you
> > > > > they are active, numerous, and damn clever. I suppose you could
say
> > > > > they are the digital age's version of the neighborhood prankster.
> > > > > Some have eventually been employed by our own government, in a
sort
> > > > > of "If we can't beat them, get them on the payroll" scenario.
> > > > >
> > > > > Symantec -- the company that manufactures Norton Antivirus, Norton
> > > > > Utilities, Systemworks, etc. -- is an excellent outfit and in my
> > > > > opinion vital to the professional computer user. I couldn't have
> kept
> > > > > my numerous computer stations running all these years with them.
> I've
> > > > > employed nearly all of their products for as long as I've been
using
> > > > > computers for a living. They've helped me root out all kinds of
> virus
> > > > > trouble, hardware problems, prevented hackers getting into my
> > > > > systems, and on and on.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't want to waste the List's time with OT discussions, but --
no
> > > > > offense intended -- your statements are absolute nonsense, and
could
> > > > > actually be damaging by negatively influencing List subscribers
who
> > > > > might otherwise buy these useful products. Hence the rebuttal.
> > > > >
> > > > > We all get angry over virus issues, and really I do sympathize
with
> > > > > you guys, but posting preposterous statements about one of the few
> > > > > companies that combats the problem is not going to help. If you
> would
> > > > > like to discuss this further, please write to me off-List. I would
> be
> > > > > happy to furnish you with additional information on the subject
that
> > > > > may be useful to you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Geoff N.
> > > > > www.notkin.net
> > > > > www.paleozoic.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Received on Sun 13 Oct 2002 01:07:51 AM PDT