[meteorite-list] Relating to the Elbert A. King Collection
From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:04:47 2004 Message-ID: <003901c1f6ec$93f7f460$88d00140_at_computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C1F6B1.DB6295C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good God Casper, get over it already you freak!=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Casper=20 To: MeteorHntr_at_aol.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Relating to the Elbert A. King = Collection Steve Arnold GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT! I have in my hand an offer placed with the KING ESTATE for $250,000.00 = AND proof of=20 HIGHER OFFERS! "Sharon was executor of Dr. King's Estate after he died in 1998. In = 1999, Sharon King hired me as the exclusive agent on a five year = contract to sell the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's private = collection." My attorney visited Mrs. King and she was in no condition to sign = ANY contract. She appeared heavily DRUGGED. Mrs. King told me that if she failed to sign a certain contract that a = certain "male nurse" would LEAVE her ALL ALONE. I was informed that A certain "LAWYER" that may have been involved may = have been subject to certain VIOLATIONS of the TEXAS BAR in the past. More later.... =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MeteorHntr_at_aol.com=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Relating to the Elbert A. King = Collection In a message dated 5/4/02 3:25:12 PM Central Daylight Time, = Michael_at_caspercoin.com writes:=20 The name is Michael NOT Mikey. Yes I did lose out of representing=20 the "King Collection". If I would have sold the collection his = daughters=20 would have been paid.=20 It is a fact that I offered OVER $200,00.00 cash to the family. = That is=20 $200,000.00 more than they received!=20 Steve Arnold, a questionable attorney and a corrupt male nurse saw = to that!=20 the King Family has NOT been paid by Steve Arnold AND ASSOCIATES = (Geoff=20 Notkin?). Hello list,=20 I regret having to post this to the list, but I feel that some = explanation is necessary. =20 For those who are unaware, Sharon King, Dr. Elbert A. King's widow, = passed away in September 2001. Lisa King is her stepdaughter. Sharon = was executor of Dr. King's Estate after he died in 1998. In 1999, = Sharon King hired me as the exclusive agent on a five year contract to = sell the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's private collection. =20 As usual Michael Casper has made some unsubstantiated comments:=20 1. He implies that no money was paid to the King family. However, = In the year 1999 alone, with me as sole agent, over $325,000.00 (YES, I = REPEAT, OVER THREE HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!) was paid from = individual and institutional buyers to Sharon King for the sale of items = in Bert's Collection. Additional sales were made in 2000 as well. =20 2. Casper claims to have made an offer of over $200,000 for the = entire collection. However, the largest offer he made to me for the = collection was $100,000. Jim Strope and Darryl Pitt were "silent" = partners with Casper in his bid for the whole collection. As I = understand it, Casper did not have enough personal funds to cover his = $100,000 offer. At some point, I know Pitt and Strope backed out of the = deal with Casper for various reasons. I haven't talked with them about = this in nearly 3 years, but I am sure they can verify this information. = When I received a larger offer for the collection, Casper said "I am not = going to bid this up, you go get your best offer and then come back to = me and I will beat it." The highest offer I received from another = party, was for $225,000 which Sharon King turned down. I asked Casper = if he wanted to top that offer and he asked "What will it take for me to = buy it?" I asked Mrs. King and she was firm on wanting at least = $300,000. When I passed this on to Casper he said some things I won't = repeat here, and he never submitted another offer to me after that. = Mrs. King then decided to sell the meteorites individually. I contacted = several institutions including the U.S. National Collection at the = Smithsonian and they were not interested in purchasing or trading for = any of the specimens. I also contacted the British Museum of Natural = History in London and they were willing to trade for just one specimen = from the collection. Several other specimens were sold to another = interested institution and then we began selling the remainder via = auctions to the general public.=20 3. Casper mentions that "the King Family has not been paid." If by = that he means that Sharon's stepchildren have not been paid yet, then he = is correct. Sharon King's Estate is still in Probate, so of course the = heirs have not received any of Sharon's assets yet. =20 4. I am not sure what he is referring to when he mentions "a = questionable attorney" and a "corrupt male nurse." However, as for his = comments concerning Geoff Notkin, Geoff was my webmaster during some of = the sales, but he had nothing to do with anything other than website = updates. =20 Many items from the King Collection were purchased by people on this = list. It is possible to verify that all the checks were made out to = either Sharon King or to the King Estate's law firm's trust account. It = is also possible to verify through those canceled checks that all funds = passed through one of these accounts and NOT mine. After the funds = cleared the bank, my commission was paid either by Sharon or her lawyer. = There was a comment made that Casper might be open for a lawsuit due = to things he has said on this list. Maybe that might be the case, but = even if I would win a lawsuit against him, I would still have to prove = "damages" before I would be awarded any money. Since Casper's = credibility has suffered so much, it is hard to imagine that his = comments have cost me any loss of sales (damages), so why should I sue = him? However, I did have several auctions on ebay this last weekend = right in the middle of all this commotion. =20 = http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=3DViewListedIte= ms&userid=3Dmeteoritebroker.com&include=3D0&since=3D7&sort=3D3&rows=3D0=20 I would be very interested to know if anyone would be willing to = swear under oath that they did indeed plan to bid on some of my lots, = but then decided not to bid based directly on Casper's public and or = private comments. Not suing Casper has nothing to do with any fear of = "full disclosure" on my part.=20 Even though the statute of limitations has expired for the King = Estate to consider filing a lawsuit against Casper, I would be = interested to know if anyone was scared off early on by Casper's public = fiasco on this list three years ago (see list archives April/May 1999). = http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/=20 Lisa King has inquired about purchases made from the King Collection = after February 4, 2001. Although my records indicate that I have not = sold any items from the King Collection after January 2001, if anyone = has purchased such material from me since then please feel free to = contact her. I would appreciate a copy of any correspondence with her = concerning these topics.=20 I know this is far more detailed than most of you care about, but I = hope I have cleared up any confusion that has been caused. I must admit = that I am pleasantly surprised by all the support I have received both = on the list and off. I would like to say thanks to all of you.=20 Thank You,=20 Steven K. Arnold=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C1F6B1.DB6295C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good God Casper, get over it already = you freak!=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3DMichael_at_caspercoin.com = href=3D"mailto:Michael_at_caspercoin.com">Michael=20 Casper</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3DMeteorHntr_at_aol.com=20 href=3D"mailto:MeteorHntr_at_aol.com">MeteorHntr@aol.com</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 08, 2002 = 4:35=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Relating to=20 the Elbert A. King Collection</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve Arnold GET THE FACTS = STRAIGHT!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have in my hand an offer placed = with the KING=20 ESTATE for $250,000.00 AND proof of </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HIGHER OFFERS!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sharon was executor of Dr. King's = Estate after=20 he died in 1998. In 1999, Sharon King hired me as the exclusive = agent on=20 a five year contract to sell the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's = private=20 collection."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> My attorney visited Mrs. King = and she was=20 in no condition to sign ANY contract. She appeared heavily=20 DRUGGED.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mrs. King told me that if she = failed to sign=20 a certain contract that a certain "male nurse" would LEAVE her ALL=20 ALONE.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was informed that A certain = "LAWYER" that may=20 have been involved may have been subject to certain VIOLATIONS of the = TEXAS=20 BAR in the past.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> More later....</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3DMeteorHntr_at_aol.com=20 href=3D"mailto:MeteorHntr_at_aol.com">MeteorHntr@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 08, 2002 = 2:08=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Relating=20 to the Elbert A. King Collection</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a = message dated=20 5/4/02 3:25:12 PM Central Daylight Time, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:Michael_at_caspercoin.com">Michael@caspercoin.com</A> = writes:=20 <BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">The name is Michael NOT Mikey. Yes I did lose out of=20 representing <BR>the "King Collection". If I would have sold the=20 collection his daughters <BR>would have been paid. <BR>It is a = fact that I=20 offered OVER $200,00.00 cash to the family. That is = <BR>$200,000.00 more=20 than they received! <BR>Steve Arnold, a questionable attorney and = a=20 corrupt male nurse saw to that! <BR>the King Family has NOT been = paid by=20 Steve Arnold AND ASSOCIATES (Geoff=20 <BR>Notkin?).</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>Hello list, <BR><BR>I regret = having to=20 post this to the list, but I feel that some explanation is = necessary. =20 <BR><BR>For those who are unaware, Sharon King, Dr. Elbert A. King's = widow,=20 passed away in September 2001. Lisa King is her stepdaughter. = Sharon=20 was executor of Dr. King's Estate after he died in 1998. In = 1999,=20 Sharon King hired me as the exclusive agent on a five year contract = to sell=20 the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's private collection. = <BR><BR>As=20 usual Michael Casper has made some unsubstantiated comments: = <BR><BR>1. He=20 implies that no money was paid to the King family. However, In = the=20 year 1999 alone, with me as sole agent, over $325,000.00 (YES, I = REPEAT,=20 OVER THREE HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!) was paid from = individual=20 and institutional buyers to Sharon King for the sale of items in = Bert's=20 Collection. Additional sales were made in 2000 as well. = <BR><BR>2. Casper claims to have made an offer of over $200,000 for = the=20 entire collection. However, the largest offer he made to me = for the=20 collection was $100,000. Jim Strope and Darryl Pitt were = "silent" partners with Casper in his bid for the whole collection. = As=20 I understand it, Casper did not have enough personal funds to cover = his=20 $100,000 offer. At some point, I know Pitt and Strope backed = out of=20 the deal with Casper for various reasons. I haven't talked = with them=20 about this in nearly 3 years, but I am sure they can verify this=20 information. When I received a larger offer for the collection, = Casper said=20 "I am not going to bid this up, you go get your best offer and then = come=20 back to me and I will beat it." The highest offer I received = from=20 another party, was for $225,000 which Sharon King turned down. = I asked=20 Casper if he wanted to top that offer and he asked "What will it = take for me=20 to buy it?" I asked Mrs. King and she was firm on wanting at least = $300,000.=20 When I passed this on to Casper he said some things I won't = repeat=20 here, and he never submitted another offer to me after that. = Mrs. King=20 then decided to sell the meteorites individually. I contacted = several=20 institutions including the U.S. National Collection at the = Smithsonian and=20 they were not interested in purchasing or trading for any of the = specimens.=20 I also contacted the British Museum of Natural History in = London and=20 they were willing to trade for just one specimen from the = collection.=20 Several other specimens were sold to another interested = institution=20 and then we began selling the remainder via auctions to the general = public.=20 <BR><BR>3. Casper mentions that "the King Family has not been paid." = If by=20 that he means that Sharon's stepchildren have not been paid yet, = then he is=20 correct. Sharon King's Estate is still in Probate, so of = course the=20 heirs have not received any of Sharon's assets yet. = <BR><BR>4. I am=20 not sure what he is referring to when he mentions "a questionable = attorney"=20 and a "corrupt male nurse." However, as for his comments concerning = Geoff=20 Notkin, Geoff was my webmaster during some of the sales, but he had = nothing=20 to do with anything other than website updates. <BR><BR>Many = items=20 from the King Collection were purchased by people on this list. = It is=20 possible to verify that all the checks were made out to either = Sharon King=20 or to the King Estate's law firm's trust account. It is also = possible=20 to verify through those canceled checks that all funds passed = through one of=20 these accounts and NOT mine. After the funds cleared the bank, = my=20 commission was paid either by Sharon or her lawyer. <BR><BR>There = was a=20 comment made that Casper might be open for a lawsuit due to things = he has=20 said on this list. Maybe that might be the case, but even if I = would=20 win a lawsuit against him, I would still have to prove "damages" = before I=20 would be awarded any money. Since Casper's credibility has = suffered so=20 much, it is hard to imagine that his comments have cost me any loss = of sales=20 (damages), so why should I sue him? However, I did have = several=20 auctions on ebay this last weekend right in the middle of all this=20 commotion. <BR><BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=3DViewL= istedItems&userid=3Dmeteoritebroker.com&include=3D0&since=3D7= &sort=3D3&rows=3D0">http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?Mfc= ISAPICommand=3DViewListedItems&userid=3Dmeteoritebroker.com&inclu= de=3D0&since=3D7&sort=3D3&rows=3D0</A>=20 <BR><BR>I would be very interested to know if anyone would be = willing to=20 swear under oath that they did indeed plan to bid on some of my = lots, but=20 then decided not to bid based directly on Casper's public and or = private=20 comments. Not suing Casper has nothing to do with any fear of = "full=20 disclosure" on my part. <BR><BR>Even though the statute of = limitations has=20 expired for the King Estate to consider filing a lawsuit against = Casper, I=20 would be interested to know if anyone was scared off early on by = Casper's=20 public fiasco on this list three years ago (see list archives = April/May=20 1999). <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/">http://www.pai= rlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/</A>=20 <BR><BR>Lisa King has inquired about purchases made from the King = Collection=20 after February 4, 2001. Although my records indicate that I = have not=20 sold any items from the King Collection after January 2001, if = anyone has=20 purchased such material from me since then please feel free to = contact her.=20 I would appreciate a copy of any correspondence with her = concerning=20 these topics. <BR><BR>I know this is far more detailed than most of = you care=20 about, but I hope I have cleared up any confusion that has been = caused.=20 I must admit that I am pleasantly surprised by all the support = I have=20 received both on the list and off. I would like to say thanks = to all=20 of you. <BR><BR>Thank You, <BR>Steven K. Arnold</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C1F6B1.DB6295C0-- Received on Wed 08 May 2002 08:00:29 PM PDT |
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