[meteorite-list] Relating to the Elbert A. King Collection

From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:04:47 2004
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Good God Casper, get over it already you freak!=20
Mike Farmer
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Casper=20
  To: MeteorHntr_at_aol.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Relating to the Elbert A. King =
Collection


  Steve Arnold GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT!

  I have in my hand an offer placed with the KING ESTATE for $250,000.00 =
AND proof of=20
  HIGHER OFFERS!

  "Sharon was executor of Dr. King's Estate after he died in 1998. In =
1999, Sharon King hired me as the exclusive agent on a five year =
contract to sell the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's private =
collection."

    My attorney visited Mrs. King and she was in no condition to sign =
ANY contract. She appeared heavily DRUGGED.

  Mrs. King told me that if she failed to sign a certain contract that a =
certain "male nurse" would LEAVE her ALL ALONE.

  I was informed that A certain "LAWYER" that may have been involved may =
have been subject to certain VIOLATIONS of the TEXAS BAR in the past.

    More later....



    =20


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: MeteorHntr_at_aol.com=20
    To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:08 AM
    Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Relating to the Elbert A. King =
Collection


    In a message dated 5/4/02 3:25:12 PM Central Daylight Time, =
Michael_at_caspercoin.com writes:=20


      The name is Michael NOT Mikey. Yes I did lose out of representing=20
      the "King Collection". If I would have sold the collection his =
daughters=20
      would have been paid.=20
      It is a fact that I offered OVER $200,00.00 cash to the family. =
That is=20
      $200,000.00 more than they received!=20
      Steve Arnold, a questionable attorney and a corrupt male nurse saw =
to that!=20
      the King Family has NOT been paid by Steve Arnold AND ASSOCIATES =
(Geoff=20
      Notkin?).



    Hello list,=20

    I regret having to post this to the list, but I feel that some =
explanation is necessary. =20

    For those who are unaware, Sharon King, Dr. Elbert A. King's widow, =
passed away in September 2001. Lisa King is her stepdaughter. Sharon =
was executor of Dr. King's Estate after he died in 1998. In 1999, =
Sharon King hired me as the exclusive agent on a five year contract to =
sell the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's private collection. =20

    As usual Michael Casper has made some unsubstantiated comments:=20

    1. He implies that no money was paid to the King family. However, =
In the year 1999 alone, with me as sole agent, over $325,000.00 (YES, I =
REPEAT, OVER THREE HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!) was paid from =
individual and institutional buyers to Sharon King for the sale of items =
in Bert's Collection. Additional sales were made in 2000 as well. =20

    2. Casper claims to have made an offer of over $200,000 for the =
entire collection. However, the largest offer he made to me for the =
collection was $100,000. Jim Strope and Darryl Pitt were "silent" =
partners with Casper in his bid for the whole collection. As I =
understand it, Casper did not have enough personal funds to cover his =
$100,000 offer. At some point, I know Pitt and Strope backed out of the =
deal with Casper for various reasons. I haven't talked with them about =
this in nearly 3 years, but I am sure they can verify this information. =
When I received a larger offer for the collection, Casper said "I am not =
going to bid this up, you go get your best offer and then come back to =
me and I will beat it." The highest offer I received from another =
party, was for $225,000 which Sharon King turned down. I asked Casper =
if he wanted to top that offer and he asked "What will it take for me to =
buy it?" I asked Mrs. King and she was firm on wanting at least =
$300,000. When I passed this on to Casper he said some things I won't =
repeat here, and he never submitted another offer to me after that. =
Mrs. King then decided to sell the meteorites individually. I contacted =
several institutions including the U.S. National Collection at the =
Smithsonian and they were not interested in purchasing or trading for =
any of the specimens. I also contacted the British Museum of Natural =
History in London and they were willing to trade for just one specimen =
from the collection. Several other specimens were sold to another =
interested institution and then we began selling the remainder via =
auctions to the general public.=20

    3. Casper mentions that "the King Family has not been paid." If by =
that he means that Sharon's stepchildren have not been paid yet, then he =
is correct. Sharon King's Estate is still in Probate, so of course the =
heirs have not received any of Sharon's assets yet. =20

    4. I am not sure what he is referring to when he mentions "a =
questionable attorney" and a "corrupt male nurse." However, as for his =
comments concerning Geoff Notkin, Geoff was my webmaster during some of =
the sales, but he had nothing to do with anything other than website =
updates. =20

    Many items from the King Collection were purchased by people on this =
list. It is possible to verify that all the checks were made out to =
either Sharon King or to the King Estate's law firm's trust account. It =
is also possible to verify through those canceled checks that all funds =
passed through one of these accounts and NOT mine. After the funds =
cleared the bank, my commission was paid either by Sharon or her lawyer. =


    There was a comment made that Casper might be open for a lawsuit due =
to things he has said on this list. Maybe that might be the case, but =
even if I would win a lawsuit against him, I would still have to prove =
"damages" before I would be awarded any money. Since Casper's =
credibility has suffered so much, it is hard to imagine that his =
comments have cost me any loss of sales (damages), so why should I sue =
him? However, I did have several auctions on ebay this last weekend =
right in the middle of all this commotion. =20

    =
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=3DViewListedIte=
ms&userid=3Dmeteoritebroker.com&include=3D0&since=3D7&sort=3D3&rows=3D0=20

    I would be very interested to know if anyone would be willing to =
swear under oath that they did indeed plan to bid on some of my lots, =
but then decided not to bid based directly on Casper's public and or =
private comments. Not suing Casper has nothing to do with any fear of =
"full disclosure" on my part.=20

    Even though the statute of limitations has expired for the King =
Estate to consider filing a lawsuit against Casper, I would be =
interested to know if anyone was scared off early on by Casper's public =
fiasco on this list three years ago (see list archives April/May 1999). =
   http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/=20

    Lisa King has inquired about purchases made from the King Collection =
after February 4, 2001. Although my records indicate that I have not =
sold any items from the King Collection after January 2001, if anyone =
has purchased such material from me since then please feel free to =
contact her. I would appreciate a copy of any correspondence with her =
concerning these topics.=20

    I know this is far more detailed than most of you care about, but I =
hope I have cleared up any confusion that has been caused. I must admit =
that I am pleasantly surprised by all the support I have received both =
on the list and off. I would like to say thanks to all of you.=20

    Thank You,=20
    Steven K. Arnold=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good God Casper, get over it already =
you freak!=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DMichael_at_caspercoin.com =
href=3D"mailto:Michael_at_caspercoin.com">Michael=20
  Casper</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DMeteorHntr_at_aol.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:MeteorHntr_at_aol.com">MeteorHntr@aol.com</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 08, 2002 =
4:35=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Relating to=20
  the Elbert A. King Collection</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve Arnold GET THE FACTS =
STRAIGHT!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have in my hand an offer placed =
with the KING=20
  ESTATE for $250,000.00 AND proof of </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HIGHER OFFERS!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sharon was executor of Dr. King's =
Estate after=20
  he died in 1998. &nbsp;In 1999, Sharon King hired me as the exclusive =
agent on=20
  a five year contract to sell the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's =
private=20
  collection."</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; My attorney visited Mrs. King =
and she was=20
  in no condition to sign ANY contract. She appeared heavily=20
  DRUGGED.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mrs. King told&nbsp;me that if she =
failed to sign=20
  a certain contract that a certain "male nurse" would LEAVE her ALL=20
  ALONE.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was informed that A certain =
"LAWYER" that may=20
  have been involved may have been subject to certain VIOLATIONS of the =
TEXAS=20
  BAR in the past.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; More later....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3DMeteorHntr_at_aol.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:MeteorHntr_at_aol.com">MeteorHntr@aol.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 08, 2002 =
2:08=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Relating=20
    to the Elbert A. King Collection</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a =
message dated=20
    5/4/02 3:25:12 PM Central Daylight Time, <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:Michael_at_caspercoin.com">Michael@caspercoin.com</A> =
writes:=20
    <BR><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff =
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
    TYPE=3D"CITE">The name is Michael NOT Mikey. Yes I did lose out of=20
      representing <BR>the "King Collection". If I would have sold the=20
      collection his daughters <BR>would have been paid. <BR>It is a =
fact that I=20
      offered OVER $200,00.00 cash to the family. That is =
<BR>$200,000.00 more=20
      than they received! <BR>Steve Arnold, a questionable attorney and =
a=20
      corrupt male nurse saw to that! <BR>the King Family has NOT been =
paid by=20
      Steve Arnold AND ASSOCIATES (Geoff=20
    <BR>Notkin?).</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>Hello list, <BR><BR>I regret =
having to=20
    post this to the list, but I feel that some explanation is =
necessary. &nbsp;=20
    <BR><BR>For those who are unaware, Sharon King, Dr. Elbert A. King's =
widow,=20
    passed away in September 2001. Lisa King is her stepdaughter. =
&nbsp;Sharon=20
    was executor of Dr. King's Estate after he died in 1998. &nbsp;In =
1999,=20
    Sharon King hired me as the exclusive agent on a five year contract =
to sell=20
    the meteorites belonging to Dr. King's private collection. &nbsp; =
<BR><BR>As=20
    usual Michael Casper has made some unsubstantiated comments: =
<BR><BR>1. He=20
    implies that no money was paid to the King family. &nbsp;However, In =
the=20
    year 1999 alone, with me as sole agent, over $325,000.00 (YES, I =
REPEAT,=20
    OVER THREE HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!) was paid from =
individual=20
    and institutional buyers to Sharon King for the sale of items in =
Bert's=20
    Collection. &nbsp;Additional sales were made in 2000 as well. &nbsp; =

    <BR><BR>2. Casper claims to have made an offer of over $200,000 for =
the=20
    entire collection. &nbsp;However, the largest offer he made to me =
for the=20
    collection was $100,000. &nbsp;Jim Strope and Darryl Pitt &nbsp;were =

    "silent" partners with Casper in his bid for the whole collection. =
&nbsp;As=20
    I understand it, Casper did not have enough personal funds to cover =
his=20
    $100,000 offer. &nbsp;At some point, I know Pitt and Strope backed =
out of=20
    the deal with Casper for various reasons. &nbsp;I haven't talked =
with them=20
    about this in nearly 3 years, but I am sure they can verify this=20
    information. When I received a larger offer for the collection, =
Casper said=20
    "I am not going to bid this up, you go get your best offer and then =
come=20
    back to me and I will beat it." &nbsp;The highest offer I received =
from=20
    another party, was for $225,000 which Sharon King turned down. =
&nbsp;I asked=20
    Casper if he wanted to top that offer and he asked "What will it =
take for me=20
    to buy it?" I asked Mrs. King and she was firm on wanting at least =
$300,000.=20
    &nbsp;When I passed this on to Casper he said some things I won't =
repeat=20
    here, and he never submitted another offer to me after that. =
&nbsp;Mrs. King=20
    then decided to sell the meteorites individually. &nbsp;I contacted =
several=20
    institutions including the U.S. National Collection at the =
Smithsonian and=20
    they were not interested in purchasing or trading for any of the =
specimens.=20
    &nbsp;I also contacted the British Museum of Natural History in =
London and=20
    they were willing to trade for just one specimen from the =
collection.=20
    &nbsp;Several other specimens were sold to another interested =
institution=20
    and then we began selling the remainder via auctions to the general =
public.=20
    <BR><BR>3. Casper mentions that "the King Family has not been paid." =
If by=20
    that he means that Sharon's stepchildren have not been paid yet, =
then he is=20
    correct. &nbsp;Sharon King's Estate is still in Probate, so of =
course the=20
    heirs have not received any of Sharon's assets yet. &nbsp; =
<BR><BR>4. I am=20
    not sure what he is referring to when he mentions "a questionable =
attorney"=20
    and a "corrupt male nurse." However, as for his comments concerning =
Geoff=20
    Notkin, Geoff was my webmaster during some of the sales, but he had =
nothing=20
    to do with anything other than website updates. &nbsp; <BR><BR>Many =
items=20
    from the King Collection were purchased by people on this list. =
&nbsp;It is=20
    possible to verify that all the checks were made out to either =
Sharon King=20
    or to the King Estate's law firm's trust account. &nbsp;It is also =
possible=20
    to verify through those canceled checks that all funds passed =
through one of=20
    these accounts and NOT mine. &nbsp;After the funds cleared the bank, =
my=20
    commission was paid either by Sharon or her lawyer. <BR><BR>There =
was a=20
    comment made that Casper might be open for a lawsuit due to things =
he has=20
    said on this list. &nbsp;Maybe that might be the case, but even if I =
would=20
    win a lawsuit against him, I would still have to prove "damages" =
before I=20
    would be awarded any money. &nbsp;Since Casper's credibility has =
suffered so=20
    much, it is hard to imagine that his comments have cost me any loss =
of sales=20
    (damages), so why should I sue him? &nbsp;However, I did have =
several=20
    auctions on ebay this last weekend right in the middle of all this=20
    commotion. &nbsp; <BR><BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=3DViewL=
istedItems&amp;userid=3Dmeteoritebroker.com&amp;include=3D0&amp;since=3D7=
&amp;sort=3D3&amp;rows=3D0">http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?Mfc=
ISAPICommand=3DViewListedItems&amp;userid=3Dmeteoritebroker.com&amp;inclu=
de=3D0&amp;since=3D7&amp;sort=3D3&amp;rows=3D0</A>=20
    <BR><BR>I would be very interested to know if anyone would be =
willing to=20
    swear under oath that they did indeed plan to bid on some of my =
lots, but=20
    then decided not to bid based directly on Casper's public and or =
private=20
    comments. &nbsp;Not suing Casper has nothing to do with any fear of =
"full=20
    disclosure" on my part. <BR><BR>Even though the statute of =
limitations has=20
    expired for the King Estate to consider filing a lawsuit against =
Casper, I=20
    would be interested to know if anyone was scared off early on by =
Casper's=20
    public fiasco on this list three years ago (see list archives =
April/May=20
    1999). &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/">http://www.pai=
rlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/</A>=20
    <BR><BR>Lisa King has inquired about purchases made from the King =
Collection=20
    after February 4, 2001. &nbsp;Although my records indicate that I =
have not=20
    sold any items from the King Collection after January 2001, if =
anyone has=20
    purchased such material from me since then please feel free to =
contact her.=20
    &nbsp;I would appreciate a copy of any correspondence with her =
concerning=20
    these topics. <BR><BR>I know this is far more detailed than most of =
you care=20
    about, but I hope I have cleared up any confusion that has been =
caused.=20
    &nbsp;I must admit that I am pleasantly surprised by all the support =
I have=20
    received both on the list and off. &nbsp;I would like to say thanks =
to all=20
    of you. <BR><BR>Thank You, <BR>Steven K. Arnold</FONT>=20
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