[meteorite-list] Bensour
From: Mark Miconi <mam602_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:02:33 2004 Message-ID: <001801c1d85f$b5aa1580$54b60344_at_ph.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1D825.08DEE720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, Thanks for the offer but that is more than the price you so loudly = advertised. Your intial offer was $2.00 a gram, and though the increase = in price is probably justified it is not what we discussed.=20 =20 I was interested, but now confused and also very disappointed.=20 =20 Does anyone stick to their word anymore? I figured this would happen and = that your offer would fade for this reason or that. It would now seem = that your anger with Dean caused you to say anything to bust his balls = and that there would be some catch that would eventually rear its ugly = head.=20 I am also curious as to why an item that weighs less than an ounce would = cost $5.96 to ship?=20 My wife and I are licensed to do our own postage....Priority mail at the = rate you quoted above would have to weigh over 2lbs., as a 2 pound = package with insurance would only cost $5.95 to ship anywhere in the US. = At the PARCEL POST Rate the item would have to weigh in at almost 3 = pounds and be shipped across the country. Mike, I am sorry but something about this offer was suspect from the = very beginning and the old saying if it sounds to good to be true, = really applied here. Now I am positive that the specimen is probably a real good buy at the = new price and that I am going to take some real flak for exposing this = change in price. Someone else will end up with a really fresh specimen = and I will not. Lots of people here will probably flame the hell out of me and that is = fine as I have been standing in front of a shit fan all my life and my = shit proof suit is also flame retardent. At least Dean has stuck to his price...it may be too high and it maybe = that he is trying to gouge everyone like you said, but at least he has = stood fast on his offer. Next time do your math before you make offers that you are not willing = to stand by. Thanks again for the offer, I will pass on the principal of the matter.=20 Sincerely, Mark M. ----- Original Message -----=20 MArk, I have a very nice 24.70 gram stone with primary and secondary = crust. I need to get $3.20 gram though as the price went up in Morocco = since Dean called and offered more to try and hurt me. He did a good job = too, but still, that is 5 TIMES less than they want at $15 gram!=20 It would be $85.00 with shipping. Please let me know ASAP if you want it = as I dont have so much to go around.=20 mike=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Miconi=20 To: Michael Farmer=20 Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bessy Bullshit I WILL BUY IT NOW! Mike, Put me down for 20 grams right now. I will pay with PayPal as soon as = it is in your hands...If you get a whole stone in 20-25 grams size even = better. At $2.00 a gram I am in for 20-25 grams right now. I would love = to have something this fresh with this lovely fusion crust and color in = my collection. Anything in that size will do. Send me an email as soon = as you have it and we will do business. Thanks, Mark Miconi #5524 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Farmer=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bessy Bullshit Well, I is time for me to jump in here and rain on Dean Bessy's = parade. I also have a substantial amount of this fall on the way via DHL = as I type here! DEan DOES NOT have it all, or even close to HALF as he = so states and is so full of bullshit, that I cant keep quiet here any = longer. I will have the materail for sale next week, and I plan to offer = it around $2 gram! Now Dean, how in the hell do you justify selling = material that you paid less than $1 gram for for $15 to $20 gram, it is = a chondrite anc a nice one, but nevertheless, you DUMP (using your own = words) rare material like it was a happy meal. Then for this fall you = try to manipulate the market with more lies and self-reithous statements = of self grandure. You are not crap when it comes to North Africa. Your = one seller has you by the balls and feeds you what you want to hear, You = my friend are the laughing stalk of Morocco. It is about time you = learned it.=20 =20 Anyway, the point is folks, that you can pay Dean his "Good Deal" = price of $15 gram, or wait one week and pay me $2 gram, your choice.=20 =20 Thanks Dean, Payback is a sunofabitch isnt it? By the way, you need = to stop talking about me, it gets back to me, every word you say, and = right now I am more than a little pissed you asshole!!!#_at_#@# =20 Mike Farmer From: Michael Farmer=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bensour Hello everyone, I am finally home after the Africa and South Pacific = trips.=20 The Bensour trip was successful, as I acquired 18.7 kilos of material = from this beautiful new fall.=20 On a downside, it seems that Dean Bessey and another European = conspired to drive the price up by offering high prices when I arrived = in Africa. Dean bought less than 100 grams for $5 gram, in order to make = my price rise. I have the email proof of anyone wants to see it. Anyway, = the net result was that I indeed had to pay more. I had negotiated a = price and offered the ~$2 gram based on that price. The problem is that = I had not paid yet and did not have the stones in my hands, so the = Moroccans raised my price as is their right to do.=20 My total cost including trip expenses is $3.20 gram, I have been = emailing all night to people who made their requests for me, and = offering it at that price, as opposed to the ~$2 gram. By the way, = please feel free to look at my original email below if there is any = confusion, I did not quote a firm exact price of $2 gram, but rather = very clearly "Around $2 gram", so although the price is higher than I = had hoped, it is still within my offer. A Couple of people have had a = problem with that, and I do indeed apologize, but in the rear world = things change, and this did. Even at the raised price of $3.20 gram, it = is still almost 5 times lower than Deans price of $15 gram, if that is = not a damn good bargain, I don't know what is.=20 Anyone who agrees or disagrees with this, please email us and tell us = why?=20 I look for any input on this matter.=20 Mike Farmer ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1D825.08DEE720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3314.2100" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the offer but that is more = than the=20 price you so loudly advertised. Your intial offer was $2.00 a gram, and = though=20 the increase in price is probably justified it is not what we discussed. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was interested, but now confused and = also very=20 disappointed. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does anyone stick to their word = anymore? I figured=20 this would happen and that your offer would fade for this reason or = that. It=20 would now seem that <STRONG>your anger with Dean caused you to say = anything to=20 bust his balls</STRONG> and that there would be some catch that would = eventually=20 rear its ugly head. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am also curious as to why an item = that weighs=20 less than an ounce would cost $5.96 to ship? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My wife and I are licensed to do our = own=20 postage....Priority mail at the rate you quoted above would have to = weigh over=20 2lbs., as a 2 pound package with insurance would only cost $5.95 to ship = anywhere in the US. At the PARCEL POST Rate the item would have to weigh = in at=20 almost 3 pounds and be shipped across the country.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike, I am sorry but something about = this offer was=20 suspect from the very beginning and the old saying if it sounds to good = to be=20 true, really applied here.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I am positive that the specimen is = probably a=20 real good buy at the new price and that I am going to take some real = flak for=20 exposing this change in price. Someone else will end up with a really = fresh=20 specimen and I will not.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lots of people here will probably flame = the hell=20 out of me and that is fine as I have been standing in front of a shit = fan all my=20 life and my shit proof suit is also flame retardent.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least Dean has stuck to his = price...it may be=20 too high and it maybe that he is trying to gouge everyone like you said, = but at=20 least he has stood fast on his offer.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next time do your math before you make = offers that=20 you are not willing to stand by.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again for the offer, I will pass = on the=20 principal of the matter. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark M.</FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MArk, I have a very nice 24.70 gram = stone with=20 primary and secondary crust. I need to get $3.20 gram though as the = price went=20 up in Morocco since Dean called and offered more to try and hurt me. He = did a=20 good job too, but still, that is 5 TIMES less than they want at $15 = gram!=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be $85.00 with shipping. = Please let me=20 know ASAP if you want it as I dont have so much to go around. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mike </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mam602_at_cox.net" title=3Dmam602@cox.net>Mark = Miconi</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" = title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net>Michael=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 13, 2002 = 8:43=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Bessy=20 Bullshit I WILL BUY IT NOW!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Put me down for 20 grams right now. I = will pay=20 with PayPal as soon as it is in your hands...If you get a whole stone = in 20-25=20 grams size even better. At $2.00 a gram I am in for 20-25 grams right = now. I=20 would love to have something this fresh with this lovely fusion crust = and=20 color in my collection. Anything in that size will do. Send me an = email as=20 soon as you have it and we will do business.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Miconi #5524</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" = title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net>Michael=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 12, 2002 = 3:55=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = Bessy=20 Bullshit</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, I is time for me to jump in = here and rain=20 on Dean Bessy's parade. I also have a substantial amount of this = fall on the=20 way via DHL as I type here! DEan DOES NOT have it all, or even close = to HALF=20 as he so states and is so full of bullshit, that I cant keep quiet = here any=20 longer. I will have the materail for sale next week, and I plan to = offer it=20 around $2 gram! Now Dean, how in the hell do you justify selling = material=20 that you paid less than $1 gram for for $15 to $20 gram, it is a = chondrite=20 anc a nice one, but nevertheless, you DUMP (using your own words) = rare=20 material like it was a happy meal. Then for this fall you try to = manipulate=20 the market with more lies and self-reithous statements of self=20 grandure. You are not crap when it comes to North Africa. Your one = seller=20 has you by the balls and feeds you what you want to hear, You my = friend are=20 the laughing stalk of Morocco. It is about time you learned it.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway, the point is folks, that = you can pay=20 Dean his "Good Deal" price of $15 gram, or wait one week and pay me = $2 gram,=20 your choice. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Dean, Payback is a = sunofabitch isnt it?=20 By the way, you need to stop talking about me, it gets back to me, = every=20 word you say, and right now I am more than a little pissed you=20 asshole!!!#_at_#@#</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike=20 Farmer</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" = title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net>Michael=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 30, 2002 = 9:45=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = Bensour</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello everyone, I am finally home = after the=20 Africa and South Pacific trips. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Bensour trip was successful, as I = acquired=20 18.7 kilos of material from this beautiful new fall. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On a downside, it seems that Dean = Bessey and=20 another European conspired to drive the price up by offering high = prices when=20 I arrived in Africa. Dean bought less than 100 grams for $5 gram, in = order to=20 make my price rise. I have the email proof of anyone wants to see it. = Anyway,=20 the net result was that I indeed had to pay more. I had negotiated a = price and=20 offered the ~$2 gram based on that price. The problem is that I had = not paid=20 yet and did not have the stones in my hands, so the Moroccans raised = my price=20 as is their right to do. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My total cost including trip expenses = is $3.20=20 gram, I have been emailing all night to people who made their requests = for me,=20 and offering it at that price, as opposed to the ~$2 gram. By the way, = please=20 feel free to look at my original email below if there is any = confusion, I did=20 not quote a firm exact price of $2 gram, but rather very clearly = "Around $2=20 gram", so although the price is higher than I had hoped, it is still = within my=20 offer. A Couple of people have had a problem with that, and I do = indeed=20 apologize, but in the rear world things change, and this did. Even at = the=20 raised price of $3.20 gram, it is still almost 5 times lower than = Deans price=20 of $15 gram, if that is not a damn good bargain, I don't know what is. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone who agrees or disagrees with = this, please=20 email us and tell us why? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I look for any input on this matter.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike = Farmer</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1D825.08DEE720-- Received on Sat 30 Mar 2002 09:56:51 PM PST |
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