[meteorite-list] Sand Dunes and Meteorites

From: T.J. Kilcrease <TJKilcrease_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:02:33 2004
Message-ID: <OE123L5GiQbKUMpyZjx000208c6_at_hotmail.com>

------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1D7B8.A5005020
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Dan,
     Sounds like you have been discussing things with Mr. Rumsfield and h=
is employees. One thing about GPS though ... it comes in different flavo=
rs. I'm retired now, but while I was on active duty we had GPS units tha=
t would be accurate to one meter. I've found most civilian units do not =
give very accurate readings. Matter of fact I found this out the hard wa=
y in Central America.
I don't think it is still imposed, but I thought there was some sort of G=
overnment imposed deviation in the triangulation calculations for the civ=
ilian GPS receivers. I believe that newer civilian units supplement the =
satellite information with ground based information to give a more accura=
te position fix.
As for the rest of your idea ... I think it would work for object of a sp=
ecific size or larger. If you decide to implement this plan I would cert=
ainly like to know the outcome.

Best of Luck
Tom Kilcrease
PS I wonder what the budget would look like for the operation?

----- Original Message -----
From: dvail
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:15 AM
To: 'Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral'
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sand Dunes and Meteorites

Ok,

A little more on my idea of how to search for meteorites in relatively hi=
gh contrast, low noise areas like sand dunes. I realize that they won't =
be as easy to automatically recognize as a 10 foot diameter shinny black =
fusion crusted meteorite in the middle of an Antarctic ice field. Howeve=
r I do believe the following method will work and it would be fun!

Low cost ultra miniature UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicle) sometimes called =
MAVs (miniature aerial vehicle) are hand launched and belly landed and ha=
ve a range of about 50 miles. They can fly at an altitude of a few feet =
to 1000 feet. They can be either battery or liquid fuel powered (aerosol=
 can). On board is a microcontroller, 4 mega-pixel digital camera, GPS r=
eceiver, and 5 GHz 802.11a wireless LAN Interface capable of transmitting=
 104 megabits per second. The wireless LAN Interface is used for video t=
ransmission, streaming real-time telemetry and remote control. Remote co=
ntrol can be preformed in real-time by a person operating a laptop with r=
emote control software comprised of a video window and a 3d topo map show=
ing the real-time GPS position of the UAV and standard aeronautical contr=
ols (graphically simulated sticks, indicators and gauges) The laptop com=
puter is connected to an 802.11a access point with an attached pitch and =
rotation controlled directional high gain parabolic antenna positioned at=
 a pre-selected strategic high ground line of site vantage point. The UA=
V control program running on the laptop can be configured to automaticall=
y execute a standard systematic grid search pattern or an out and back mo=
dified grid/radial pattern planed around the range characteristics of the=
 UAV. During the execution of the search pattern the laptop records a se=
ries of overlapping snapshots stamped with GPS coordinate, UAV spatial or=
ientation, date/time, and other pertinent information. A pixel-pattern d=
iscrimination program reviews the snapshots (Photoshop on steroids). The=
 program allows the user to graphically select targets from a database of=
 object photos and parametric deviation criteria. The object database co=
ntains key information on each photographed object in the database. The =
pixel pattern selection algorithm is adaptive and can adjust itself based=
 on various prevailing conditions such as atmospheric, meteorological, li=
ght, shadow, time of day, spatial orientation. It selects suspects. Sus=
pect targets are manually reviewed at high resolution. A larger, more so=
phisticated UAV with a steerable zoom camera can be dispatched to the GPS=
 coordinates for a closer look at an interesting target. At that point, =
if things look good I think it would be ok to hop in the old dune buggy (=
local land use laws permitting) and have a look.
 =20
This method could be refined and improved with practice to perhaps find m=
eteorites in lower contrast higher noise areas.
 =20
Dan Vail

------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1D7B8.A5005020
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Hi Dan,</DIV> =
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sounds like you have been discussing things=
 with Mr. Rumsfield and his employees.&nbsp; One thing about GPS though .=
.. it comes in different flavors.&nbsp; I'm retired now, but while I was =
on active duty we had GPS units that would be accurate to one meter.&nbsp=
; I've found most civilian units do not give&nbsp;very accurate&nbsp;read=
ings.&nbsp; Matter&nbsp;of fact I found this out the hard way in Central =
America.</DIV> <DIV>I don't think it is still imposed, but I thought ther=
e was some sort of Government imposed deviation in the triangulation calc=
ulations for the civilian GPS receivers.&nbsp; I believe that newer civil=
ian units supplement the satellite information with ground based informat=
ion to give a more accurate position fix.</DIV> <DIV>As for the rest of y=
our idea ... I think it would work for object of a specific size or large=
r.&nbsp; If you decide to implement this plan I would certainly like to k=
now the outcome.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Best of Luck</DIV> <DIV>Tom=
 Kilcrease</DIV> <DIV>PS&nbsp; I wonder what the budget would look like f=
or the operation?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RI=
GHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px s=
olid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original =
Message -----</DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; =
COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> dvail</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B=
>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:15 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10p=
t Arial"><B>To:</B> 'Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral'</DIV> <DIV style=3D=
"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] Sand Dunes and Me=
teorites</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" n=
ame=3DGENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D452060108=
-30032002>Ok,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D452060108-30032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DA=
rial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D452060108-30032002>A little more on my idea o=
f how to search for meteorites in relatively high contrast, low noise&nbs=
p;areas like sand dunes.&nbsp; I realize that they won't be as easy to au=
tomatically recognize as a 10 foot diameter shinny black fusion crusted m=
eteorite in the middle of an Antarctic ice field.&nbsp; However I do beli=
eve the following method will work and it would be fun!</SPAN></FONT></DI=
V> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D452060108-30032002></SP=
AN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0><SPAN class=3D452060108-30032=
002> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FO=
NT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3D2>Low cost ultra miniature UAVs (unmanned =
aerial vehicle) sometimes called MAVs (miniature aerial vehicle) are hand=
 launched and&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D452060108-30032002>belly landed and </SP=
AN>have a range of about&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D452060108-30032002>50</SPAN> =
mile<SPAN class=3D452060108-30032002>s.&nbsp; They&nbsp;can fly at an alt=
itude of a few feet to 1000 feet</SPAN>.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D452060108-30032002>They can be either battery =
or liquid fuel powered (aerosol can).&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN>On board is a m=
icrocontroller, 4 mega-pixel digital camera, GPS receiver, and&nbsp;<SPAN=
 class=3D452060108-30032002>5 </SPAN>GHz 802.11a wireless LAN Interface c=
apable of transmitting 104 megabits per second.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spaceru=
n: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The wireless LAN Interface is used for video transm=
ission, streaming real-time telemetry and remote control.<SPAN style=3D"m=
so-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Remote control can be preformed in real-t=
ime by a person operating a laptop with remote control software comprised=
 of a video window and a 3d topo map showing the real-time GPS position o=
f the UAV and standard aeronautical controls (graphically simulated<SPAN =
class=3D452060108-30032002> sticks, indicators and gauges</SPAN>)<SPAN st=
yle=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The laptop computer is connected =
to an 802.11a access point with an attached pitch and rotation controlled=
 directional high gain parabolic antenna positioned at a pre-selected str=
ategic high ground line of site vantage point.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun=
: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The UAV control program running on the laptop can be=
 configured to automatically execute a standard systematic grid search pa=
ttern or an out and back&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D452060108-30032002>modified g=
rid/</SPAN>radial pattern planed around the range characteristics of the =
UAV.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>During the execution =
of the search pattern the laptop records a series of overlapping snapshot=
s stamped with GPS coordinate, UAV spatial orientation, date/time, and ot=
her pertinent information.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN=
>A pixel-pattern discrimination program reviews the snapshots (Photoshop =
on steroids).<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The program =
allows the user to graphically select targets from a database of object p=
hotos and parametric deviation criteria.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"=
>&nbsp; </SPAN>The object database contains key information on each photo=
graphed object in the database.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; <=
/SPAN>The pixel pattern selection algorithm is adaptive and can adjust it=
self based on various prevailing conditions such as atmospheric, meteorol=
ogical, light, shadow, time of day, spatial orientation.<SPAN style=3D"ms=
o-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It selects suspects.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spa=
cerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Suspect targets are manually reviewed at high r=
esolution.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>A larger, more =
sophisticated UAV with a steerable zoom camera can be dispatched to the G=
PS coordinates for a closer look at an interesting target.<SPAN style=3D"=
mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>At that point, if things look good I thi=
nk it would be ok to hop in the old dune buggy (local land use laws permi=
tting) and have a look.<?xml:namespace prefix =3D o ns =3D "urn:schemas-m=
icrosoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=
<FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT siz=
e=3D2>This method could be refined and improved with practice to perhaps =
find meteorites in lower contrast higher noise areas.<o:p></o:p></FONT></=
SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <=
P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY: Arial"><FONT size=3D2>Dan Vail<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></SPAN></=
FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1D7B8.A5005020--
Received on Sat 30 Mar 2002 07:00:58 AM PST


Help support this free mailing list:



StumbleUpon
del.icio.us
reddit
Yahoo MyWeb