[meteorite-list] From R. Hartman [ To My investors thread]
From: Greg Redfern <gredfern_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:02:28 2004 Message-ID: <NBBBJPGEPBMHMOJGKPFFEENHCEAA.gredfern_at_earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1CB31.9372E0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron, As one of the gentlemen and established icons of this field, you once again show the benefits of having wisdom, grace, and the proper words to express what many of us feel. I too have had the pleasure of dealing with both and have found them to be honest, reliable, and customer oriented. These men are very good at what they do, provide a valuable service to the community they serve and we lovers of rocks from space, no matter where they are found or by whom, are better off having them both. Greg Redfern IMCA #5781 www.meteoritecollectors.org -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of capricorn89 Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:43 AM To: Michael Farmer; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] From R. Hartman [ To My investors thread] M. Farmer wrote <<I would like for all of you to email here, not in a bad way but to say in this forum if you are happy or not with our trips. >> I have enjoyed doing business with both Dean and Mike and what I read in these posts seems out of character for each. They both feel passionate about their businesses and protective of their interests. Discretion is sometimes the better part of valor, as Dr. Frederick C. Leonard (my Professor in meteoritics) used to say. Dr. Leonard was one of the founders of the Meteoritical Society; he and Nininger were colleagues, and on-and-off friends. Perhaps, few of you are aware that they, at various times, were at odds with one another, They didn't have meteorite lists to vent their feelings, but handled their differences in their own polite way. With them the tension existed because Leonard was strictly an academian and Nininger commercialized his meteorites. But, in the long run, they both were meteoriticists and colleagues, and worked for the common good. As an investor with Mike, I have always found him to be more than fair and quite agreeable. I am very pleased and have no complaints. I know how much he puts into his business. I have also done business with Dean. He has given me good deals for which I have been pleased. Hello Mike; Hello Dean. :=) Keep those NWA's coming! We are all benefiting from your efforts. Ron Hartman ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Farmer To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] To My investors I would like to ask my investors to post an email here in public to announce whether they are happy with my trips or not. You have all been accused of being ripped off, being unhappy with the trips, of saying that you were angry at me in posts over the last month. I would like for all of you to email here, not in a bad way but to say in this forum if you are happy or not with our trips. If you do not wish to stand up for me and for yourselves, then I will gladly invite you out of any further trips. you have all had words put into your mouths that you did not say. Please take a moment and tell your side to the list, or else you are allowing other people to say things for you that you never said. If you want this, then I no longer want investors of this caliber working with me. Mike Farmer P.S. This does not make you look bad, or is not intended to drag you into a fight, just to clarify if you are or are not happy with your investment trips. I would appreciate this as I have been and you have all been publicly quoted as being unhappy with me and my trips. Lets get it finished here and now today. Quotes from the Archives "But how much did your investors on your other trips cash out with? I understand that some of you guys are getting sued over those trips." ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1CB31.9372E0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Ron,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2> As one of the gentlemen and established icons of = this field,=20 you once again show the benefits of having wisdom, grace, and the = proper=20 words to express what many of us feel. I too have had the = pleasure=20 of dealing with both and have found them to be honest, reliable, and = customer=20 oriented.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2> These men are very good at what they do, provide a = valuable=20 service to the community they serve and we lovers of rocks from space, = no matter=20 where they are found or by whom, are better off having them both.=20 </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT size=3D2>Greg = Redfern<BR>IMCA=20 #5781<BR>www.meteoritecollectors.org </FONT></DIV></SPAN> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D360151213-14032002><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D360151213-14032002> </SPAN>-----Original = Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20 </B>capricorn89<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:43 = AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20 Michael Farmer; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 [meteorite-list] From R. Hartman [ To My investors=20 thread]<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>M. Farmer wrote <<I would like for all of = you to email=20 here, not in a bad way but to say in this forum if you are happy or = not with=20 our trips. >></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have enjoyed doing business with both Dean and = Mike and=20 what I read in these posts seems out of character for each. They = both=20 feel passionate about their businesses and protective of their=20 interests. Discretion is sometimes the better part of valor, as = Dr.=20 Frederick C. Leonard (my Professor in meteoritics) used to say. = Dr.=20 Leonard was one of the founders of the Meteoritical Society; he and = Nininger=20 were colleagues, and on-and-off friends. Perhaps, few of=20 you are aware that they, at various times, were at odds with one=20 another, They didn't have meteorite lists to vent their = feelings,=20 but handled their differences in their own polite way. = With them=20 the tension existed because Leonard was strictly an academian and = Nininger=20 commercialized his meteorites. But, in the long run, they both = were=20 meteoriticists and colleagues, and worked for the common good. =20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>As an investor with Mike, I have always found him = to be more=20 than fair and quite agreeable. I am very pleased and have no=20 complaints. I know how much he puts into his business. I = have also=20 done business with Dean. He has given me good deals for which I = have=20 been pleased. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello Mike; Hello Dean. :=3D) = Keep those=20 NWA's coming! We are all benefiting from your = efforts.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ron Hartman</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net = href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net">Michael=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 13, = 2002 10:20=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] To = My=20 investors</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to ask my investors to = post an=20 email here in public to announce whether they are happy with my = trips or=20 not. You have all been accused of being ripped off, being unhappy = with the=20 trips, of saying that you were angry at me in posts over the last = month. I=20 would like for all of you to email here, not in a bad way but to say = in this=20 forum if you are happy or not with our trips. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you do not wish to stand up for = me and for=20 yourselves, then I will gladly invite you out of any further trips. = you have=20 all had words put into your mouths that you did not say. Please take = a=20 moment and tell your side to the list, or else you are allowing = other people=20 to say things for you that you never said. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you want this, then I no longer = want=20 investors of this caliber working with me. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. This does not make you look = bad, or is not=20 intended to drag you into a fight, just to clarify if you are or are = not=20 happy with your investment trips. I would appreciate this as I have = been and=20 you have all been publicly quoted as being unhappy with me and my = trips.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lets get it finished here and now = today.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Quotes from the = Archives</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>"But how much did your investors on your = other trips=20 cash out with? I understand that some of you guys are getting sued = over=20 those trips."</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1CB31.9372E0E0-- Received on Thu 14 Mar 2002 08:23:53 AM PST |
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