[meteorite-list] Fwd:Ebay Fraud Drama! (What Law?)
From: SSachs9056_at_aol.com <SSachs9056_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:01:30 2004 Message-ID: <c.2906e0c1.2a2ed034_at_aol.com> --part1_c.2906e0c1.2a2ed034_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannie and List, 1) colin --- or whoever sends you the emails, should seriously consider either a spellcheck program or hire a proofreader. Their response was fraught with so many spelling errors. I sincerely doubt this person has an advanced degree or any degree at all. One can hardly take this individual seriously. 2) Section 25 of the Slanderous Comments Act(?) Huh? Although I'm not an attorney, being in law enforcement for 24 years, I do peruse state and federal law bulletins, and statutes from time to time. Uh....colin might want to look for another attorney. Nowhere did I find any reference to a Slanderous Comments Act. When I first saw the title I even had to smile....it doesn't even sound all that original ! ;-) Hey----Steve Arnold....you ever hear of that particular statute??? 3) Finally I had to smile again. This person accuses you of selling meteorite material for the last ten years under the Irreplaceable Resourse Act. Anyone could easily counter that statement and question this person why THEY would sell something illegal themselves? Wow! Unbelievable nonsense! Jeannie, I hope you let this clown really have it...but good. And just remember two things: a) "Consider the source" b) "There are more horses asses in this world than there are horses." Best, Steven L. Sachs IMCA# 9210 --part1_c.2906e0c1.2a2ed034_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com> Received: from rly-xh05.mail.aol.com (rly-xh05.mail.aol.com [172.20.115.234]) by air-xh03.mail.aol.com (v86.11) with ESMTP id MAILINXH34-0603011154; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 01:11:54 -0400 Received: from pairlist.net (pairlist.net [216.92.1.92]) by rly-xh05.mail.aol.com (v86.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXH57-0603011128; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 01:11:28 -0400 Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAF9537ED; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 00:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: meteorite-list_at_pairlist.net Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DACD5536DF for <meteorite-list_at_lists.meteoritecentral.com>; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 00:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19454 invoked by uid 7111); 3 Jun 2002 04:45:28 -0000 Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:com-meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Received: (qmail 19450 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2002 04:45:28 -0000 Received: from iris.slb.nwc.acsalaska.net (209.112.155.43) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2002 04:45:28 -0000 Received: from museumst (71-pm6.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.139.71]) by iris.slb.nwc.acsalaska.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g534jL044464 for <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 20:45:21 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from musnat_at_alaska.net) Message-ID: <002101c20aba$06e10440$478b70d1_at_museumst> From: "TMS/TNS/HRC" <musnat_at_alaska.net> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C20A76.F66AAC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay Fraud Drama! Sender: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com Errors-To: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com X-BeenThere: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:meteorite-list-request_at_meteoritecentral.com?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> List-Subscribe: <http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list>, <mailto:meteorite-list-request_at_meteoritecentral.com?subject=subscribe> List-Id: <meteorite-list.meteoritecentral.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list>, <mailto:meteorite-list-request_at_meteoritecentral.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 20:49:17 -0800 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C20A76.F66AAC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello list! Well, the drama continues. I filed a Fraud Complaint with Ebay yesterday re= garding the "Canyon Diablo Meteorite" which as you all know by now, turned o= ut to be iron shale. I have received two responses from Judith McCabe/Colin=20= also known as pahanaswife, bubbamisen, and currently j.c.z.inc. on Ebay. T= he first was a response to Ebay which was forwarded to me through their syst= em:=20 >Comment Added: Buyer contacted me after 2 months for refund. Item sold was indeed meteorite as listed in the meteoritic encyclopedia 5th issue. I=20 am contacting my lawer to consider proceedings for the fraud allegation. Slander is another word for it. As I mentioned before in my communication to the list, I contacted the selle= r the day after I received the product in the mail, received a nasty reply a= nd my subsequent attempts to contact them were ignored. The second comment I received was an email to me directly which I received t= his afternoon. Hi My lawer has advised me to start legal proceedings against you for the frau= d allegation.Which i am very seriously considering. Under section 25 of the=20= slanderous comments act( which comes under federal law) i have the right bec= ause the fraud complaint is a false statement and slanderous against my bein= g and integrity. I therefore am considering a class action lawsuit against y= ou because of this. The material sent to you was as discribed in the auction . There was not a=20= mention that it was nickel iron. Furthermore in your own words you have admi= tted selling this material for 10 years. Which under federal law is illegal=20= under the ireplacable resourse act. I have many paths open to me towards a lawsuit. one being my geology degree= and my expirience in the field of astrogeology. But not to beat around the=20= bush i will sue you for every penny you have. Have a wonderful day colin So, it seems that something finally woke them up! :) =20 I find it interesting that one of the comments in the email mentioned that t= here was nothing that said the material was nickel iron. So, this confirms=20= my previous suspicion that this person knows exactly what they are selling ,= and is deliberately misrepresenting it as Canyon Diablo meteorite to get a=20= higher price at auction than what it is actually worth. This one is definit= ely a "rotton apple".=20 Just wanted to pass on the latest news to you all, since I promised to keep=20= everyone informed about what was going on! Warm regards to you all, Jeannie IMCA #9236 The Museum Store/The Nature Source & The Historical Research Center Anchorage, Alaska www.thenaturesource.com ______________________________________________ No matter how far you go down the wrong road, turn back. -Turkish Proverb ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C20A76.F66AAC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Hello list!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Well, the drama continues. I filed a Fraud Complai= nt=20 with Ebay yesterday regarding the "Canyon Diablo Meteorite" which as you all= =20 know by now, turned out to be iron shale. I have received two responses= =20 from Judith McCabe/Colin also known as pahanaswife, bubbamisen,=20 and currently j.c.z.inc. on Ebay. The first was a response to Eba= y=20 which was forwarded to me through their system: </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><EM>>Comment Added: Buyer contacted me after 2 months for refund. It= em=20 sold was<BR>indeed meteorite as listed in the meteoritic encyclopedia 5th is= sue.=20 I <BR>am contacting my lawer to consider proceedings for the fraud=20 allegation.<BR>Slander is another word for it.</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>As I mentioned before in my communication to the list, I= =20 contacted the seller the day after I received the product in the mail, recei= ved=20 a nasty reply and my subsequent attempts to contact them were=20 ignored.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>The second comment I received was an email to me directl= y=20 which I received this afternoon.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Hi</EM> <P><EM> My lawer has advised me to start legal proceedings against you=20= for=20 the fraud allegation.Which i am very seriously considering. Under section 25= of=20 the slanderous comments act( which comes under federal law) i have the right= =20 because the fraud complaint is a false statement and slanderous against my b= eing=20 and integrity. I therefore am considering a class action lawsuit against you= =20 because of this.</EM></P> <P><EM> The material sent to you was as discribed in the auction . Ther= e=20 was not a mention that it was nickel iron. Furthermore in your own words you= =20 have admitted selling this material for 10 years. Which under federal law is= =20 illegal under the ireplacable resourse act.</EM></P> <P><EM> I have many paths open to me towards a lawsuit. one being my=20 geology degree and my expirience in the field of astrogeology. But not to be= at=20 around the bush i will sue you for every penny you have.</EM></P> <P><EM> &nb= sp; &= nbsp;  = ; =20 Have a wonderful day</EM></P> <P><EM> &nb= sp; &= nbsp;  = ; &nb= sp; =20 colin</EM></P></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>So, it seems that something finally woke them up! =20 :) </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>I find it interesting that one of the comments in the em= ail=20 mentioned that there was nothing that said the material was nickel= =20 iron. So, this confirms my previous suspicion that this person knows=20 exactly what they are selling , and is deliberately misrepresenting it as Ca= nyon=20 Diablo meteorite to get a higher price at auction than what it is actually=20 worth. This one is definitely a "rotton apple". </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Just wanted to pass on the latest news to you all,=20= since=20 I promised to keep everyone informed about what was going on!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Warm regards to you all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Jeannie</FONT><BR></DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>IMCA #9236</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>The Museum Store/The Nature Source<BR>& The Historic= al=20 Research Center<BR>Anchorage, Alaska<BR><A href=3D"http://www.thenaturesou= rce.com">www.thenaturesource.com</A><BR>____________________________________= __________<BR>No=20 matter how far you go down the wrong road, turn back.<BR>-Turkish=20 Proverb</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C20A76.F66AAC80-- --part1_c.2906e0c1.2a2ed034_boundary-- Received on Tue 04 Jun 2002 10:23:48 PM PDT |
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