[meteorite-list] Huge news: 1st find from 4/6/2002 Bavarian Bolide [PART 2 of 2]

From: Matson, Robert <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:00:12 2004
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"The fireball started its almost 92 km long luminous trajectory at an
altitude of 85.6 km about 15 km NE from Innsbruck, Austria (longitude 11.564
deg
E, latitude 47.304 deg N). Maximum brightness of about -18 absolute
magnitude
was reached in a bright flare at a height of 21 km near
Garmisch-Partenkirchen,
Germany (longitude 10.91 deg E, latitude 47.51 deg N). The fireball
terminated
at an altitude of only 15.8 km about 20 km W from Ga-Pa (longitude 10.85 deg
E,
latitude 47.53 deg N). Such deep penetration of a fireball is very scarce
and
this fireball belongs to the deepest ever-photographed fireballs in the
history.
It also implicates, that some part of the initial mass survived the ablation
processes in the atmosphere and landed on the ground as meteorites. The
slope of
the atmospheric trajectory to the Earth's surface was 49.5 degrees. The
fireball
entered the atmosphere with the velocity of 20.9 km/s and during its flight
substantially decelerated to the final value of only 4 km/s, when ablation
process was stopped. According to the dynamic behavior in the atmosphere
this
fireball belongs to the fireball type I, which is usually identified with
stony
material, mostly ordinary chondrites. The initial dynamic mass of the
entering
meteoroid was about 500 kg and most of this mass was ablated and only about
30
kg of total mass could land on the ground in several fragments. The impact
area
is relatively large, it is at least several kilometers long and about 1km
wide.
The main fragments will lie eastwards from Schwangau, Germany. Smaller
fragments
could be found also around the Austria-Germany border westwards from Ga-Pa.
The
whole area is located in high mountains (the Alps), which is unfortunately
very
unfavorable for any systematic search.

"From the exact time of the fireball occurrence, its initial velocity, and
the
position of the radiant, we computed the heliocentric orbit. We found that
the
body, before its collision with Earth, orbited the Sun on an elliptic orbit
defined by the following orbital elements: semimajor axis 2.4 AU,
eccentricity
0.67, perihelion distance 0.79 AU, argument of perihelion 241.4 degrees,
longitude of ascending node 16.8 degrees and inclination 11.4 degrees. Such
kind
of heliocentric orbit is quite usual for fireballs which penetrate very deep
into the Earth's atmosphere and which can produce meteorites. The aphelion
of
these orbits lies in the main belt of Asteroids and therefore the asteroidal
origin of these bodies is inferred. However, the heliocentric orbit of this
fireball has one very significant exceptionality: we found that this orbit
is
the same as the orbit of the first photographed meteorite fall in the
history -
the Pribram meteorite fall on April 7, 1959. Both orbits are so close that
there
is no doubt that both bodies have the same origin. It is very important
evidence
for the existence of asteroidal streams and meteorite streams as suggested
earlier by Halliday and others. From observations of both bolides we know
that
both bodies were far from each other in the orbit (probably about half of
the
period) when the Pribram collided with the Earth. It implies that many such
bodies have to be on this orbit, because it is fantastic chance to
photograph
two meteorite falls from the same orbit on practically the same territory
within
only 43 years! It also substantiates why it is important to operate such
long
term observing program as the European Fireball Network is.

"Finally, from the perfect similarity of both heliocentric orbits we can
predicate, that both bodies had also the same composition and therefore we
can
expect that meteorites produced by the April 6 fireball are H5 ordinary
chondrites."

--Pavel Spurny
--Astronomical Institute of the Academy of Sciences
--Ondrejov Observatory
--The Czech Republic
--e-mail: <mailto:spurny_at_asu.cas.cz> spurny@asu.cas.cz
 
If this meteorite should prove to be an H5, and paired to Pribram, this will
be a very huge discovery indeed! I'm sure we are all very anxious to hear
about classification results!
 
Congratulations again, and good hunting for additional specimens! --Rob
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Kurtz [mailto:thomas.kurtz_at_stud.fh-hannover.de]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:50 AM
To: Meteoriten-Mailingliste
Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW ! ! ! First found of the Neuschwanstein"
Meteorite


Hello list,
 
The first piece is 1750g big ! It was found on 14.7.2002 , 6 km SO from
"Neuschwanstein"-castle !
Very nice individual and very fresh !
 
Look this Link for picture :

http://www.wetteragentur.de/modules.php?op=modload
<http://www.wetteragentur.de/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&s
id=10556&mode=&order=0> &name=News&file=article&sid=10556&mode=&order=0

With best wishes,
 
Thomas Kurtz.
Web Site : http://www.stud.fh-hannover.de/~kurtzt
<http://www.stud.fh-hannover.de/~kurtzt>
Mobile-phone : +49 (0) 160-98117639


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<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002><SPAN class=207154018-30072002>[CONTINUED from PART
1]</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002><SPAN class=207154018-30072002></SPAN><BR>"The fireball
started its almost 92 km long luminous trajectory at an<BR>altitude of 85.6 km
about 15 km NE from Innsbruck, Austria (longitude 11.564 deg<BR>E, latitude
47.304 deg N). Maximum brightness of about -18 absolute magnitude<BR>was reached
in a bright flare at a height of 21 km near Garmisch-Partenkirchen,<BR>Germany
(longitude 10.91 deg E, latitude 47.51 deg N). The fireball terminated<BR>at an
altitude of only 15.8 km about 20 km W from Ga-Pa (longitude 10.85 deg
E,<BR>latitude 47.53 deg N). Such deep penetration of a fireball is very scarce
and<BR>this fireball belongs to the deepest ever-photographed fireballs in the
history.<BR>It also implicates, that some part of the initial mass survived the
ablation<BR>processes in the atmosphere and landed on the ground as meteorites.
The slope of<BR>the atmospheric trajectory to the Earth's surface was 49.5
degrees. The fireball<BR>entered the atmosphere with the velocity of 20.9 km/s
and during its flight<BR>substantially decelerated to the final value of only 4
km/s, when ablation<BR>process was stopped. According to the dynamic behavior in
the atmosphere this<BR>fireball belongs to the fireball type I, which is usually
identified with stony<BR>material, mostly ordinary chondrites. The initial
dynamic mass of the entering<BR>meteoroid was about 500 kg and most of this mass
was ablated and only about 30<BR>kg of total mass could land on the ground in
several fragments. The impact area<BR>is relatively large, it is at least
several kilometers long and about 1km wide.<BR>The main fragments will lie
eastwards from Schwangau, Germany. Smaller fragments<BR>could be found also
around the Austria-Germany border westwards from Ga-Pa. The<BR>whole area is
located in high mountains (the Alps), which is unfortunately very<BR>unfavorable
for any systematic search.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=046035817-30072002><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR>"From the exact time of the fireball occurrence, its initial
velocity, and the<BR>position of the radiant, we computed the heliocentric
orbit. We found that the<BR>body, before its collision with Earth, orbited the
Sun on an elliptic orbit<BR>defined by the following orbital elements: semimajor
axis 2.4 AU, eccentricity<BR>0.67, perihelion distance 0.79 AU, argument of
perihelion 241.4 degrees,<BR>longitude of ascending node 16.8 degrees and
inclination 11.4 degrees. Such kind<BR>of heliocentric orbit is quite usual for
fireballs which penetrate very deep<BR>into the Earth's atmosphere and which can
produce meteorites. The aphelion of<BR>these orbits lies in the main belt of
Asteroids and therefore the asteroidal<BR>origin of these bodies is inferred.
However, the heliocentric orbit of this<BR>fireball has one very significant
exceptionality: we found that this orbit is<BR>the same as the orbit of the
first photographed meteorite fall in the history -<BR>the Pribram meteorite fall
on April 7, 1959. Both orbits are so close that there<BR>is no doubt that both
bodies have the same origin. It is very important evidence<BR>for the existence
of asteroidal streams and meteorite streams as suggested<BR>earlier by Halliday
and others. From observations of both bolides we know that<BR>both bodies were
far from each other in the orbit (probably about half of the<BR>period) when the
Pribram collided with the Earth. It implies that many such<BR>bodies have to be
on this orbit, because it is fantastic chance to photograph<BR>two meteorite
falls from the same orbit on practically the same territory within<BR>only 43
years! It also substantiates why it is important to operate such long<BR>term
observing program as the European Fireball Network is.<BR><BR>"Finally, from the
perfect similarity of both heliocentric orbits we can<BR>predicate, that both
bodies had also the same composition and therefore we can<BR>expect that
meteorites produced by the April 6 fireball are H5
ordinary<BR>chondrites."<BR><BR>--Pavel Spurny<BR>--Astronomical Institute of
the Academy of Sciences<BR>--Ondrejov
Observatory<BR>--</FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002><FONT size=2>The Czech Republic<BR>--e-mail: </FONT><A
href="mailto:spurny_at_asu.cas.cz" target=_top><FONT color=#000099
size=2>spurny_at_asu.cas.cz</FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002>If this meteorite should prove to be an H5, and paired
to Pribram, this will</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002>be a very huge discovery indeed!&nbsp; I'm sure we are
all very anxious to hear</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002>about classification
results!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002>Congratulations again, and good hunting for additional
specimens!&nbsp; --Rob</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=046035817-30072002>&nbsp;</DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Thomas
Kurtz [mailto:thomas.kurtz_at_stud.fh-hannover.de]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July
30, 2002 7:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Meteoriten-Mailingliste<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[meteorite-list] NEW ! ! ! First found of the Neuschwanstein"
Meteorite<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello list,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The first piece is 1750g big ! It was found on
14.7.2002 , 6 km SO from "Neuschwanstein"-castle !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very nice individual and very fresh !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Look this Link for picture :</FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>
<DIV><BR><A
href="http://www.wetteragentur.de/modules.php?op=modload&amp;name=News&amp;file=article&amp;sid=10556&amp;mode=&amp;order=0">http://www.wetteragentur.de/modules.php?op=modload&amp;name=News&amp;file=article&amp;sid=10556&amp;mode=&amp;order=0</A><BR><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>With best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thomas Kurtz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Web Site :&nbsp;&nbsp; <A
href="http://www.stud.fh-hannover.de/~kurtzt">http://www.stud.fh-hannover.de/~kurtzt</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mobile-phone :&nbsp; +49 (0)
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