[meteorite-list] The Moroccan CR2 meteorite
From: dean bessey <deanbessey_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:52 2004 Message-ID: <LAW2-F97DWaFQgoY5uI0001671f_at_hotmail.com> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>Geez farmer. you dont like it when people undercut your overpriced meteorites do you. I remember a time when you were attacking casper because he used to sell stuff for the going market price and that interfered with your ability to sucker your customers into charging triple the going rate for the same material. Even coming up with some lame excuse that your crap was somehow better than caspers material because you travelled to some faraway land to get a photo of yourself in a scouts outfit standing next to poor natives like some sally strutters commercial with a meteorite in your hands. Maybe you should take some lessons from casper so that you can learn how to offer a fair price for your meteorites. Your customers might then finally get a true decent deal for a change instead of paying for your travel stories. </P> <P>Or maybe you should travel to northen canada again and offer $20 (Canadian) a gram for tagish lake that other dealers were offering $200 for. And then blame the canadian meteorite police when you dont get any and at the same time make the sad discovery that all natives up there dont actually spend all of their lives sniffing glue but actually are educated enough to know that $200 is more than $20. </P> <P>Maybe you should have gotten your "investors" to pay for that trip to.</P> <P>But dont worry. I am sure that you have more customers interested in buying overpriced meteorites from you. I guess that when casper left the market you must have figured that that was no other dealers around that was interested in selling meteorites for less than a 10 to 20 times markup. </P> <P>Good thing that you got lucky when you bought the lunar with other peoples money. Otherwise you would be backrupt.</P> <P>dean<BR><BR></P></DIV> <DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>_____________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even from the Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. www.meteoriteshop.com <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Michael Farmer" <FARMERM_at_CONCENTRIC.NET> <DIV></DIV>>To: "dean bessey" <DEANBESSEY_at_HOTMAIL.COM>, <METEORITE-LIST@METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Moroccan CR2 meteorite <DIV></DIV>>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:28:28 -0600 <DIV></DIV>>MIME-Version: 1.0 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from [207.155.198.79] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBE1C226600884004371CCF9BC64FD7D50; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:20:55 -0800 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71])by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id g0QGKr716891 ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:20:53 -0500 (EST) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from computer (ts004d10.tuc-az.concentric.net [64.1.208.166])by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a)id LAA22972; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:20:46 -0500 (EST) <DIV></DIV>>From farmerm_at_concentric.net Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:22:06 -0800 <DIV></DIV>>Errors-To: <FARMERM_at_CONCENTRIC.NET> <DIV></DIV>>Message-ID: <003d01c1a67e$1d2a8320$a6d00140_at_computer> <DIV></DIV>>References: <LAW2-F122DTUGUOBVP9000102D1_at_HOTMAIL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>X-Priority: 3 <DIV></DIV>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal <DIV></DIV>>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 <DIV></DIV>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Dean, wow, you have it all huh? Considering I was there just a week and a half ago, you can't run your crap by me. Don't you think using the term "dump" is good for a meteorite that you are admitting is so beautiful and rare? There WILL be more meteorites coming from that strewnfield. you know that so stop your lying. You are the most interesting dealer ive seen since Casper, buy rare meteorites and then "dump" them to make a buck. You admitted that you would make alot of enemies with your CR2 fiasco, it is working, You should stick to selling your crappy $250 kilos scraps and quit trying to trash anything else. <DIV></DIV>>Mike Farmer <DIV></DIV>> ----- Original Message ----- <DIV></DIV>> From: dean bessey <DIV></DIV>> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:05 PM <DIV></DIV>> Subject: [meteorite-list] The Moroccan CR2 meteorite <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> I am now in amsterdam enjoying guinness in a coffee shop with internet access and am piling over hundreds of emails many of which concern the CR2 strewnfield . <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> I will post photos of the strewnfield, coordinates and other data in the next day or two. the strewnfield is within a couple miles of downtown zagora. it is small and very well known. I plan on approaching the meteoritical society to ask for a real name on it. the locals have throughly searched over it with sight, magnets and metal detectors. I am told that 3 months ago there were two or three hundred people a day seaching the flat rocky strewnfield that has no vegetation and is easy to search. it is quite small to. most people have now gotten discouraged and now only a couple dozen wemon including small girls search anymore. everybody came up to me when we entered the strewnfield but there was less than a gram for sale. there will not be more meteorites coming out of that strenfield. likely no place on earth has been searched over like that strewnfield has been searched. if there was 300 people in that strewnfield it would be like walking around in a crowded disco. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> it was very hard to buy any. Except for about 250 grams that a guy who I never got off to a good start has I bought all that there is left in the zagora area. Likely there is less than a kilo in all of morocco right now including what is left in the strewnfield although what is left is pretty minimal. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> everybody wanted to much and most of the stuff that I have, I have on consignment to sell. Everybody figured that getting me to sell it for them in tucson would get them more cash than selling it outright. I pretty much have all that is left. I have about a kilo and a half although half is already spoken for by other dealers so my stuff will quickly dry up and i dont think that I will ever get more. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> I havent paid for my material so I have to dump it and just take a commission although i plan on keeping some of it. I have spent over 50,000 dollars in the past month getting ready for tucson and getting ebay stock for afterwards so I have to get rid of this stuff. I can still match my 23.50 a gram price for as long as it lasts for individual specimens. Let me know what sizes that you want if you want any. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> I think that a fair price for this stuff is about seventy five dollars a gram. After tucson I likely wont be feeling so poor and still feel a need to dump one of the most significant meteoprites to come out of the sahara anymore. there is certainly not 2 tons of meteorites in this strewnfield like there is in allende which still yields six or seven dollars a gram. the strenfield is very well known also. this is not a meteorite without known coordinates (although to be honest i cant see a difference anyway but thats just my opinion). I will post coordinates tomorrow. right now my GPS unit is on the airplane so I cant check the info that I saved <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> i will only be back in canada for a day before i go to tucson so if you want any email the sizes that you want and i will go over what i have. I prefer paypal payment so that I can get it out monday before i leave to drive to tucson. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> I will have more info and strewnfield photos in the next couple days and I will then sell it to the list. if you want some get it now or in tucson. this stuff will not be under 30 dollars forever. I know of a couple other dealers with quantities so I dont know what they plan on doing but there is no economic reason for anybody to beat my price here. this one should have an increase in price. remember this meteorite was 300 dollars in tucson last year and 200 dollars at the recent denver show. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> Cheers <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> DEAN <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> . <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> _____________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>> You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even from the Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. www.meteoriteshop.com <DIV></DIV>> >From: Bernd Pauli HD <DIV></DIV>> >To: rbourlan_at_evansville.net <DIV></DIV>> >CC: Starbits_at_aol.com, dfreeman@fascination.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing <DIV></DIV>> >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:36:21 +0100 <DIV></DIV>> >MIME-Version: 1.0 <DIV></DIV>> >Received: from [216.92.1.92] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBE1B355F002A4004318FD85C015C066F0; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:29:45 -0800 <DIV></DIV>> >Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1])by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTPid 812B853689; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:50:34 -0500 (EST) <DIV></DIV>> >Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23])by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B762153CEEfor ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:35:55 -0500 (EST) <DIV></DIV>> >Received: (qmail 54314 invoked by uid 7111); 25 Jan 2002 22:35:53 -0000 <DIV></DIV>> >Received: (qmail 54310 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2002 22:35:53 -0000 <DIV></DIV>> >Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (194.25.134.18) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 22:35:53 -0000 <DIV></DIV>> >Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.deby mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtpid 16UEwe-0002hG-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:35:40 +0100 <DIV></DIV>> >Received: from lehrer1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (520016871279-0001_at_[217.228.180.150]) by fmrl10.sul.t-online.comwith esmtp id 16UEwO-0KbZDsC; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:35:24 +0100 <DIV></DIV>> >From meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:31:07 -0800 <DIV></DIV>> >Delivered-To: meteorite-list_at_pairlist.net <DIV></DIV>> >Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:com-meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>> >Message-ID: <3C51DDE5.7C384E0A_at_lehrer1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <DIV></DIV>> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [de]C-CCK-MCD QXW0324e (Win95; U) <DIV></DIV>> >X-Accept-Language: de,en <DIV></DIV>> >References: <DIV></DIV>> >X-Sender: 520016871279-0001_at_t-dialin.net <DIV></DIV>> >Sender: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>> >Errors-To: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>> >X-BeenThere: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>> >X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 <DIV></DIV>> >Precedence: bulk <DIV></DIV>> >List-Help: <DIV></DIV>> >List-Post: <DIV></DIV>> >List-Subscribe: , <DIV></DIV>> >List-Id: <DIV></DIV>> >List-Unsubscribe: , <DIV></DIV>> >List-Archive: <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > > According to Dr Kring there was a paper published which <DIV></DIV>> > > gave the differences in the H, L, and LL ordinary chondrites. <DIV></DIV>> > > I think it was by Rubin but I am not sure. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> >Nor am I. 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