[meteorite-list] NWA CR2s
From: MARK BOSTICK <thebigcollector_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:48 2004 Message-ID: <OE91KtdJRp9UKAeRCmy000260f3_at_hotmail.com> ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C1A0D2.52370B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thought someone might be interested in this so I will take a minute to sp= end on the CR2's. If Farmer could provide a map and all his information = that would be nice (or anyone else). How about a webpage that compare th= e classifications of the ones classified and such.......just a thought. CR meteorites or Carbonaceous Renazzo type get their name from a meteorit= e that fell in Emilia-Romagna, Italy on January 15th, 1824. Being a carbo= naceous chondrite it is one of the most primitive meteorites that has bee= n studied by science. They are believed to contain matter from the pre-so= lar nebula. Like CM types, who CR where once part of, CR's contain about = 0.6 to 2.9% carbon and about 13% water. Most of these meteorites also con= tain amino acids. The Murchison is a well studied meteorite in this class= . CR meteorites differ from CM's as they also have clearly visible iron-n= ickle. Light element stable isotope data from Artic finds Y-790112 and T-= 793495 show that the CR group is also highly varible in its isotopic char= acter. =20 I was able to get three little complete CR'2's. One thing I find interes= ting in this meteorite is it appears (to me) that the matric material had= a much lower melting point. One speciman I have has most of the matrix = burned away leaving a chondrule suspended within little matrix. On some = spots of crust this meteorite has round circle without crust...as if 95% = of the matrix burned away before the chondrule fell out. Thats just how i= t looks to me for whatever thats worth. The armoured chondrules I have seen in several slices....really puzzle me= . It is a 2 now. I also applaud David and Dean for their efforts for collectors and scienc= e. This si the perfect example on why NWA help everyone and that we all = can work together to help everyone. I'll give Dean an extra plus since a= ll his got seperate numbers. What I mean by this....he sold a complete C= R2 NWA numbered meteorite for under $50!!!1 (The one that weighed like .= 6 or .7, which has to also be the smallest NWA I imagine as well). My po= int here being he did not charge a premium. Good buy whoever got this li= ttle meteorite!!! I guess I will also be the first to give the nomads credit. First in fin= ding it. Second in being smart enough to sell it to all the main buyers. = Dont think about too hard on this. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Tettenborn Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:04 AM To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2s a temporary bargain Mike, You also stated that you were mapping the strewn field. Can you make thi= s map available now that the field has been cleaned? This would make you= r cache even more valuable. Now all the people thumbing there noses at NWA's will have to pause and c= onsider this find with a known location of quantifiable and gorgeous mate= rial. =20 Many collectors have been blessed with the NWA meteorite rush with many n= ow having material only found in museums 3 years ago. The worlds museums= have also been blessed. I have seen what David has contributed to the R= oyal Ontario Museum and the quantity and beauty of what he has given is a= stounding. The R.O.M. is extremely grateful. Cheers, tett (Mike Tettenborn) ----- Original Message ----- =20 From: Michael Farmer =20 To: David Gregory ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com =20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2s a temporary bargain I was in the strewnfield four days ago. =20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message ----- =20 From: David Gregory =20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com =20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] CR2s a temporary bargain Dear List I am one of about 4 dealers who bought up CR2s in Morroco.We all sha= red our good fortune with friends, collectors and Ebay buyers.This howeve= r was a very temporary opportunity which will never be seen again. Dean B= essy allowed collectors for a once in a lifetime chance at letting them h= ave CR2s at $23 a gram. People who would never have dreamed one year ago = at such an opportunity, now proudly display their CR2s and are expanding = their collections.He will sell out at Tucson leaving only three of us wit= h the lion's share of this find. The strewn field is small and totally wo= rked over.Those of us left will never after Tucson let this rare material= sell for under $100 a gram.I probably control half of the fall and will = personally keep or donate it to the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto , Can= ada. [ about4,000+ grams]. Thus supply and demand kick in and those that = have it are in no hurry to sell it at low prices after Feb. 2002. For tho= se that bought CR2s from Dean, Congratulations on the great deal. For tho= se who didn't it's highly unlikely you will ever be offered this gift aga= in, which was more of a temporary parntnership to help offset Deans inves= tment.Dean has done well by buying from the source and adding a bit of a = mark up. He is providing material today that we could only have dreamed o= f a year ago at affordable prices. He has helped to expand the base of ou= r collecting community and is an asset to us.Those who bought in the past= at high prices should not worry. The material is limited and will contin= ue to sell to high prices in the future. Best regards David Gregory =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C1A0D2.52370B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff" STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;b= ackground-color:#ffffff; "><DIV><FONT size=3D2> <P>Thought someone might = be interested in this so I will take a minute to spend on the CR2's. = ; If Farmer could provide a map and all his information that would be nic= e (or anyone else). How about a webpage that compare the classifica= tions of the ones classified and such.......just a thought.</P> <P>CR met= eorites or Carbonaceous Renazzo type get their name from a meteorite that= fell in Emilia-Romagna, Italy on January 15th, 1824. Being a carbonaceou= s chondrite it is one of the most primitive meteorites that has been stud= ied by science. They are believed to contain matter from the pre-solar ne= bula. Like CM types, who CR where once part of, CR's contain about 0.6 to= 2.9% carbon and about 13% water. Most of these meteorites also contain a= mino acids. The Murchison is a well studied meteorite in this class. CR m= eteorites differ from CM's as they also have clearly visible iron-nickle.= Light element stable isotope data from Artic finds Y-790112 and T-793495= show that the CR group is also highly varible in its isotopic character.= </P></FONT></DIV> <DIV>I was able to get three little complete CR'2's.&n= bsp; One thing I find interesting in this meteorite is it appears (to me)= that the matric material had a much lower melting point. One speci= man I have has most of the matrix burned away leaving a chondrule suspend= ed within little matrix. On some spots of crust this meteorite has = round circle without crust...as if 95% of the matrix burned away before t= he chondrule fell out. Thats just how it looks to me for whatever thats w= orth.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The armoured chondrules I have seen in= several slices....really puzzle me. It is a 2 now.</DIV> <DIV> </DI= V> <DIV>I also applaud David and Dean for their efforts for collectors an= d science. This si the perfect example on why NWA help everyone and= that we all can work together to help everyone. I'll give Dean an = extra plus since all his got seperate numbers. What I mean by this.= ...he sold a complete CR2 NWA numbered meteorite for under $50!!!1 = (The one that weighed like .6 or .7, which has to also be the smallest NW= A I imagine as well). My point here being he did not charge a premi= um. Good buy whoever got this little meteorite!!!</DIV> <DIV> = </DIV> <DIV>I guess I will also be the first to give the nomads credit.&n= bsp; First in finding it. Second in being smart enough to sell it to all = the main buyers. Dont think about too hard on this.</DIV> <DIV>&nbs= p;</DIV> <DIV>Mark</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING= -LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGH= T: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DI= V> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>= From:</B> Tettenborn</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> S= aturday, January 19, 2002 7:04 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><= B>To:</B> meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 1= 0pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] CR2s a temporary bargain<= /DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENER= ATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT= ></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT f= ace=3DArial size=3D2>You also stated that you were mapping the strewn fie= ld. Can you make this map available now that the field has been cle= aned? This would make your cache even more valuable.</FONT></DIV> <= DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DAri= al size=3D2>Now all the people thumbing there noses at NWA's will have to= pause and consider this find with a known location of quantifiable and g= orgeous material. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D= 2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many collectors ha= ve been blessed with the NWA meteorite rush with many now having material= only found in museums 3 years ago. The worlds museums have also be= en blessed. I have seen what David has contributed to the Royal Ont= ario Museum and the quantity and beauty of what he has given is astoundin= g. The R.O.M. is extremely grateful.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D= Arial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheer= s,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV= ><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tett (Mike Tettenborn)</FONT></DIV></DIV> <B= LOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGI= N-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV sty= le=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D= "BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <= A title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net href=3D"mailto:farmerm@concentric.net">M= ichael Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A ti= tle=3Dgregoryd_at_attcanada.ca href=3D"mailto:gregoryd@attcanada.ca">David G= regory</A> ; <A title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com href=3D"mailt= o:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.co= m</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, Janua= ry 19, 2002 1:07 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>= Re: [meteorite-list] CR2s a temporary bargain</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV= ><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was in the strewnfield four days ago. </FO= NT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOC= KQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-L= EFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D= "FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACK= GROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A tit= le=3Dgregoryd_at_attcanada.ca href=3D"mailto:gregoryd@attcanada.ca">David Gr= egory</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dme= teorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list@meteorite= central.com">meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D= "FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:42 AM</DIV>= <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] CR2s a = temporary bargain</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>= Dear List</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DI= V> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I am one of = about 4 dealers who bought up CR2s in Morroco.We all shared our good fort= une with friends, collectors and Ebay buyers.This however was a very temp= orary opportunity which will never be seen again. Dean Bessy allowed coll= ectors for a once in a lifetime chance at letting them have CR2s at $23 a= gram. People who would never have dreamed one year ago at such an opport= unity, now proudly display their CR2s and are expanding their collections= .He will sell out at Tucson leaving only three of us with the lion's shar= e of this find. The strewn field is small and totally worked over.Those o= f us left will never after Tucson let this rare material sell for under $= 100 a gram.I probably control half of the fall and will personally keep o= r donate it to the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto , Canada. [ about4,000= + grams]. Thus supply and demand kick in and those that have it are in no= hurry to sell it at low prices after Feb. 2002. For those that bought CR= 2s from Dean, Congratulations on the great deal. For those who didn't it'= s highly unlikely you will ever be offered this gift again, which was mor= e of a temporary parntnership to help offset Deans investment.Dean has do= ne well by buying from the source and adding a bit of a mark up. He = is providing material today that we could only have dreamed of a yea= r ago at affordable prices. He has helped to expand the base of our colle= cting community and is an asset to us.Those who bought in the past at hig= h prices should not worry. The material is limited and will continue to s= ell to high prices in the future. Best regards David Gregory </= FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C1A0D2.52370B80-- Received on Sat 19 Jan 2002 11:16:12 AM PST |
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