[meteorite-list] LAST WORD,
From: Meteordealer <meteor.dealer_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:48 2004 Message-ID: <006201c1a073$8f0a88c0$bb753d04_at_vz.dsl.genuity.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C1A049.A5E09460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is MY last word. I'm tired of arguing about nothing. I started = collecting meteorites 9 years ago and have been into them since then. = That is much longer than most people. I have had a love for Astronomy as = far back as i can remember and it carried over into meteorites after = ordering a meteorite catalog out of the back of a Sky and Telescope = magazine.=20 Brad Sampson meteor.dealer_at_gte.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Farmer=20 To: Meteordealer ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] LAST WORD, Brad, who gave you the right to the last word? It seems that the only = people who are crying that the NWA rare prices are crashing/The old Sky = is falling spiel, are the people who dont have anything to offer.=20 I have many things, and my prices arent crashing. If you want Brahin, = buy it up, you can have some nice $5 gram dust in a year or two. There = are so many hundreds of kilos of Brahin coming out that it makes Campo = look rare now.=20 Also please clarify one more thing Brad, you mentioned that you have = been in meteorites over 9 YEARS, WOW, I never heard your name until = about 2 years ago, and I live in Tucson and know about everyone in = meteorites. That would mean that you outdate almost every dealer out = there but Haag, Lang and Mitterling.=20 Any of you guys heard of Brad back then? It seems you are getting more = and more time under your belt exponentially.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original BMessage -----=20 From: Meteordealer=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......LAST WORD <<Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in = 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made = for shock value?>> No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% of their value practically = overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later they were $15g, = hence the entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo was upset = that the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed that the = Temple Bar, Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is = happening with the Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo = (CR2), $350g-$400g?=20 <<Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it = was first found. This is just not a true statement. >> Wagon Mound currently lists between $1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same = price i was selling it for 2 years ago. There are 2 pieces of WM on Ebay = that just sold for $2.28g and $11.72g. <<Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay = for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/>> Brahin could be found online about 4 years ago for $4.50g-$5.00g. If = you go outside of Ebay it is still listed for $4g-$5.00g and selling for = that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last Summer for $4.00g. I = had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago wanting some Brahin or = Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a nice slice in the 100g = range. Ebay is not the end all be all determining factor of meteorite = value. You also have to factor in website prices, private sale prices, = and offline mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the artificially low = Ebay prices for Brahin. I would suggest buying as much Brahin as you can = as the price will be shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs out. That is = all i have to say on the subject. If anyone needs clarification as to = why rare types of NWA's are crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY as = i no longer wish to bore the list members with this endless debate. This = dead horse has been beaten long enough. ;-) Brad Sampson meteor.dealer_at_gte.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randy Mils=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin...... Brad: Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette = does not qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by whom on = Lafayette. Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in = 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made = for shock value? Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it = was first found. This is just not a true statement. Actually I = remember when one dealer had a sale in which he GAVE AWAY a sample of = Wagon Mound with every purchase. Does this lower the value to zero. = No, not anymore than a sale on any commodity at a retail store. Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay = for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/ Randy >From: "Meteordealer"=20 >To:=20 >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......=20 >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20 >=20 > "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we know where, = when, total=20 >mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning that the = appropriate lab=20 >work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites other than an = NWA lost=20 >95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i recall. Are = most NON=20 >NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at about the same = price as=20 >they always have? Yes.=20 >=20 >Brad Sampson=20 >meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 >=20 >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Michael Blood"=20 >To: "Meteordealer"=20 >Cc:=20 >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20 >Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20 >=20 >=20 > > Meteordealer wrote:=20 > > > What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE = holding=20 >steady.=20 > > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites = on a daily=20 > > > basis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price = they've=20 >always=20 > > > been or more.......=20 > > > Brad Sampson=20 > > > ______________________________________________________=20 > > Well Brad,=20 > > Let's get this strait: there is no (price) instability, there = are=20 > > "legitimate"=20 > > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the others (NWA, in = particular)=20 > > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding steady."=20 > > You have enlightened me to such a degree I have placed your = emial in=20 > > the folder I formerly reserved for posts from Mohamed .... and = I don't=20 > > mean=20 > > Ali.=20 > > Keep on truckin', dude.=20 > > Michael=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >______________________________________________=20 >Meteorite-list mailing list=20 >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click = Here ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list = mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C1A049.A5E09460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> This is MY last word. I'm = tired of=20 arguing about nothing. I started collecting meteorites 9 years ago and = have been=20 into them since then. That is much longer than most people. I have = had a=20 love for Astronomy as far back as i can remember and it carried over = into=20 meteorites after ordering a meteorite catalog out of the back of a Sky = and=20 Telescope magazine. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Brad Sampson<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">meteor.dealer@gte.net</A><BR></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net = href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net">Michael=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dmeteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">Meteordealer</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, 2002 = 4:44=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] LAST=20 WORD,</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brad, who gave you the right to the = last word? It=20 seems that the only people who are crying that the NWA rare prices are = crashing/The old Sky is falling spiel, are the people who dont have = anything=20 to offer. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have many things, and my prices = arent crashing.=20 If you want Brahin, buy it up, you can have some nice $5 gram dust in = a year=20 or two. There are so many hundreds of kilos of Brahin coming out that = it makes=20 Campo look rare now. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also please clarify one more thing = Brad, you=20 mentioned that you have been in meteorites over 9 YEARS, WOW, I never = heard=20 your name until about 2 years ago, and I live in Tucson and know about = everyone in meteorites. That would mean that you outdate almost every = dealer=20 out there but Haag, Lang and Mitterling. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any of you guys heard of Brad back = then? It seems=20 you are getting more and more time under your belt exponentially.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original BMessage ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dmeteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">Meteordealer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, = 2002 3:56=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Re: = CR2=20 prices ruin......LAST WORD</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><<<FONT size=3D3>Please educate us on = which NWA=20 meteorite lost 95% of it's value in 24 hours. Was this just = another of=20 your broad, sweeping statements made for shock=20 value?>></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>No problem. NWA CR2's have lost = 95% of their=20 value practically overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days = later they=20 were $15g, hence the entire reason this discussion was started, = Matteo was=20 upset that the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed = that the=20 Temple Bar, Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what = is=20 happening with the Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo = (CR2),=20 $350g-$400g? </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><<Also, Wagon Mound is not = selling for=20 what it sold per gram when it was first found. This is just = not a true=20 statement. >></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Wagon Mound currently lists = between=20 $1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same price i was selling it for 2 years = ago. There=20 are 2 pieces of WM on Ebay that just sold for $2.28g and=20 $11.72g.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><<Brahin once sold for $10- = per=20 gram. Now it can be bought on ebay for less than $1- = sometimes. =20 How much are you selling it for on your website? You seem to = have=20 omitted the price on this one. <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/">http://www.angelfire.co= m/me2/meteorites/</A>>></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Brahin could be found online = about 4 years=20 ago for $4.50g-$5.00g. If you go outside of Ebay it is still listed = for=20 $4g-$5.00g and selling for that price i might add. I sold out of = Brahin last=20 Summer for $4.00g. I had a collector email me a couple of = weeks=20 ago wanting some Brahin or Brenham. He said he was willing to pay = $5g for a=20 nice slice in the 100g range. Ebay is not the end all be all=20 determining factor of meteorite value. You also have to factor in = website=20 prices, private sale prices, and offline mail order prices. Don't be = fooled=20 by the artificially low Ebay prices for Brahin. I would suggest = buying as=20 much Brahin as you can as the price will be shooting back up as soon = as Ivan=20 runs out. That is all i have to say on the subject. If anyone needs=20 clarification as to why rare types of NWA's are crashing feel free = to email=20 me PRIVATELY as i no longer wish to bore the list members with this = endless=20 debate. This dead horse has been beaten long enough. = ;-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV>Brad Sampson<BR><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">meteor.dealer@gte.net</A><BR></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dacculabs_at_hotmail.com = href=3D"mailto:acculabs_at_hotmail.com">Randy=20 Mils</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, = 2002 7:34=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = [meteorite-list] Re: CR2=20 prices ruin......</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P>Brad:</P> <P>Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette = does=20 not qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by = whom on=20 Lafayette.</P> <P>Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value = in 24=20 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping = statements made=20 for shock value?<BR><BR>Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what = it sold=20 per gram when it was first found. This is just not a true=20 statement. Actually I remember when one dealer had a sale in = which=20 he GAVE AWAY a sample of Wagon Mound with every purchase. = Does this=20 lower the value to zero. No, not anymore than a sale on any=20 commodity at a retail store.</P> <P>Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought = on ebay=20 for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for = on your=20 website? You seem to have omitted the price on this = one. <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/">http://www.angelfire.co= m/me2/meteorites/</A></P> <P>Randy</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Meteordealer" <METEOR.DEALER_at_GTE.NET> <DIV></DIV>>To: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin...... = <DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we = know=20 where, when, total=20 <DIV></DIV>>mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning = that the=20 appropriate lab=20 <DIV></DIV>>work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites = other=20 than an NWA lost=20 <DIV></DIV>>95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i = recall.=20 Are most NON=20 <DIV></DIV>>NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at = about=20 the same price as=20 <DIV></DIV>>they always have? Yes.=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>Brad Sampson=20 <DIV></DIV>>meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV></DIV>>From: "Michael Blood" <MLBLOOD_at_COX.NET> <DIV></DIV>>To: "Meteordealer" <METEOR.DEALER_at_GTE.NET> <DIV></DIV>>Cc: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20 <DIV></DIV>>Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Meteordealer wrote:=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > What instability??? Most legitimate = finds and=20 falls ARE holding=20 <DIV></DIV>>steady.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market = prices of=20 many meteorites on a daily=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > basis. Just about all of them i look at = are the=20 same price they've=20 <DIV></DIV>>always=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > been or more.......=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Brad Sampson=20 <DIV></DIV>> > >=20 ______________________________________________________=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Well Brad,=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Let's get this strait: there is no (price)=20 instability, there are=20 <DIV></DIV>> > "legitimate"=20 <DIV></DIV>> > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the = others=20 (NWA, in particular)=20 <DIV></DIV>> > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding = steady."=20 <DIV></DIV>> > You have enlightened me to such a degree I = have=20 placed your emial in=20 <DIV></DIV>> > the folder I formerly reserved for posts from = Mohamed=20 .... and I don't=20 <DIV></DIV>> > mean=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Ali.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Keep on truckin', dude.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > Michael=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>______________________________________________=20 <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list mailing list=20 <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = <DIV></DIV>>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 <DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. <A=20 href=3D"http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag4_etl_EN.asp">Click=20 Here</A><BR>______________________________________________ = Meteorite-list=20 mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</BLOCKQUOTE></BLO= CKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C1A049.A5E09460-- Received on Fri 18 Jan 2002 05:57:51 PM PST |
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