[meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......

From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:48 2004
Message-ID: <003f01c19fcf$c2ead0e0$3834b1d0_at_computer>

Well., well, I m Casper, I sold it at $-200.00 gram, and for the next month,
I have Gibeons for $.10 gram, NOT?
A sale does not a price set in any market.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Strope" <jim_at_catchafallingstar.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......


> Yeah, and I sold Allende for $2- per gram also. So what is your point?
>
> Isolated sales don't mean squat.
>
> Jim Strope
> 421 Fourth Street
> Glen Dale, WV 26038
>
> Catch a Falling Star Meteorites
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Meteordealer" <meteor.dealer_at_gte.net>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
>
>
> > I've sold Saharan Shergottite material for $75g before.
> >
> > Brad Sampson
> > meteor.dealer_at_gte.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Strope" <jim_at_catchafallingstar.com>
> > To: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral"
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
> >
> >
> > > Gotta disagree on this one. For example the recent Shergotite finds
in
> > the
> > > Sahara have forced down even the price of Zagami (remember the recent
> sale
> > > on ebay at $145- per gram). And Zagami is a fresh witnessed fall!!!
> > >
> > > The fall in prices of some rare types of meteorites is especially true
> of
> > > "type" collectors. Why not take advantage of the lower prices if you
> are
> > > just wanting to fill a hole in your type collection.
> > >
> > > Also, if you want a piece of the moon your only choice is from the
> Sahara
> > > (with the limited exception of Calcalong Creek
> > > http://208.55.105.193/calcalong.htm ). Other rare types have greatly
> > > benefited from the recent goldrush in meteorites like the "R"
> chondrites.
> > > It was only a very short while ago when you had to sell your first
born
> to
> > > buy Rumuriti.
> > >
> > > I feel very safe in predicting that like all "goldrushes" in the past,
> > this
> > > one two will be over before you know it. Then we can all sit around
and
> > say
> > > " I remember when you could buy XYZ meteorite for .......... Ah the
> good
> > > old days !!!"
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Strope
> > > 421 Fourth Street
> > > Glen Dale, WV 26038
> > >
> > > Catch a Falling Star Meteorites
> > > http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Meteordealer" <meteor.dealer_at_gte.net>
> > > To: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral"
> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually, the only prices being forced down tremendously are
other
> > > > Moroccan finds. Legitimate finds and falls have held steady with
many
> > > > steadily rising in price, especially American and European
meteorites.
> I
> > > > have watched several common American chondrites rise in price 2 or 3
> > fold
> > > > just over the past 6 months or so. It appears that collectors are
> > becoming
> > > > tired of NWA's and other Moroccan finds are beginning to revert back
> to
> > > > recognized, named, falls and finds and are willing to pay a premium
to
> > do
> > > > so. Don't get me wrong, Moroccan meteorites are a blessing to those
> who
> > > > couldn't afford the rare types before but unfortunately they are
also
> > VERY
> > > > volatile in their value. A lot of people were saying that the
Moroccan
> > > flood
> > > > would be the downfall of the meteorite market but it appears to have
> > > > actually strengthened the market, at least as far as NON Moroccan
> > > meteorites
> > > > are concerned.
> > > >
> > > > Brad Sampson
> > > > meteor.dealer_at_gte.net
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>
> > > > To: "Robert Verish" <bolidechaser_at_yahoo.com>
> > > > Cc: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral"
> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:54 PM
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] CR2 prices ruin......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Rob, Matteo and all,
> > > > > I just gotta laugh! As I been sayin' in my column in
> > > > > VOYAGE!, the meteorite market has not been this good
> > > > > since the 60s & 70s.
> > > > > The flood of material from Africa, and, more importantly,
> > > > > the American buyers' "invasion of Africa" have forced prices
> > > > > down tremendously!
> > > > > Now, I have actually had a respected dealer tell me he
> > > > > LIKED the guy who stole from a museum, "...because he drove
> > > > > the prices up on meteorites to what they are really worth."
> > > > > Are you shi..ing me!? What is WRONG with some dealers
> > > > > that they somehow think HIGH prices are "better" than low
> > > > > prices??? I don't get it. My customers still spend about the
> > > > > same amount of $ with me - they just get MORE for their
> > > > > $! AND, I have never been so prolific in adding to my collection!
> > > > > In the last year and a half, I have nearly trippled my
collection! -
> > > > > more, if you count in terms of "value" or rarity instead of just
> > > > > # of pieces. Why? BECAUSE I CAN AFFORD TO! If a customer
> > > > > spends $100 with me now and gets 10 grams of something, how
> > > > > is that less desirable than 2 years ago he spent $100 with me
> > > > > and got 1 gram of the same material? I still mark up the same
> > > > > % - well, a little less, but basically, I am making a
percentage -
> > and
> > > > > my customer is getting MUCH more for his $! AND I can also
> > > > > get much more (in meteorites) for MY $ for my own collection.
> > > > > So, where is the down side?
> > > > > Well, there IS a "down" side - but ONLY for dealers. One can
> > > > > no longer afford to buy ANYTHING and "sit on it" for ANY amount
> > > > > of time! You gotta buy/sell almost overnight - that is why I do
sell
> > > > > stuff for less % markup now - GOTTA move it - it might go down in
> > > > > price. Now, I definately HAVE sold stuff that way only to have it
> > > > > go UP in price - sometimes by a lot, but hay, I made my mark up
and
> > > > > played it safe.
> > > > > Time was, no matter how much I bought, it was a GREAT investment,
> > > > > as it could only go up (with very few exceptions). Now, no one
> > > > > knows day to day - but, GREAT buys to be had! When Africa dries
> > > > > up, as it most certainly will, THESE will be the days we look back
> > > > > on as THE GOLDEN YEARS. It might be in 4 months or 4 years or even
> > > > > more, but you can be SURE this "glut" will stop - and when it
does,
> > > > > supply/demand will quickly drive prices up.
> > > > > So, I get all I can of as much stuff as I can and save as big a
> piece
> > > > > as possible of everything for my own collection NOW - in time,
> sooner
> > > > > or later, it will be back up in price, making getting more very,
> very
> > > > > difficult. Each and every one of us will, one day, kick ourselves
in
> > the
> > > > > ass, and say, "MAN, I could have gotten as much as I wanted
of -----
> > > > > for ----$ a gram back in ought two!"
> > > > > Hay, what days we live in, eh?
> > > > > Best wishes, Michael
> > > > >
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