[meteorite-list] panoramic view in probably carbonaceous chondrites

From: Michael Blood <*mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:44 2004 Message-ID: <3C3C352B.562A_at_home.com> · mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com

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dean bessey wrote:
> 
> I never started it. The PELISSON's are the ones who made the moronic pitch
> about his meteorites being better than the NWAs and has been making constant
> idiotic comments to that effect for months. He made the NWA comment in his
> posting. Not me. I spoke nothing but the truth in my email. The stones are
> worth more than twice as much because of the strewnfield data is known. If a
> researcher or collector wants to pay double to have the strewnfield data
> thats fine with me. I dont have a problem with that. People can buy anything
> that they want. I just dont like people playing "My meteorites is better
> than your meteorites" and using the "holier than thou" agruement crap to
> support it.
> And what gives you the right to go shooting off in public that I am somehow
> being "unprofessional" just because I point out the obvious and commenting
> on the PELISSON's continued efforts to drive the nomads out of the meteorite
> market so that they can have the Sahara all to themselves and drive the
> prices of their meteorites up even further by eliminating competation. Who
> is being unprofessional here? Me or some other dealer who makes attacks in
> public and figures that he knows better than everybody else and figures that
> he has a right to preech to us infidels just because he happens to be a
> university lecturer
> of geology.
> If the PELISSON's continue to attack NWAs because they dont like the way
> that a free market economy works I will continue to call a spade a spade.
> And I dont need your rightous preeching telling me how I should run my
> business any more than I need to hear this crap from the PELISSONs.
> And the nomads have just as much of a right to be in the desert hunting for
> meteorites as everybody else does. And until you plan on paying to train the
> nomads and buy equipment and provide funding so that they can give you all
> of the strewnfield data that you want dont go around with a halo over your
> head trying to convince everybody that you are better than the rest of us.
> DEAN
> >
> 
> >From: "capricorn89" <capricorn89_at_earthlink.net>
> >To: "dean bessey" <deanbessey_at_hotmail.com>,
> ><meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] panoramic view in probably carbonaceous
> >chondrites
> >Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:19:40 -0800
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> >Hello Dean (copy to list):
> >
> >Without wanting to infringe on your constitutional rights (at least
> >according to U.S. Law) to freedom of expression, may I respectfully
> >suggest,
> >and recommend, for the benefit of the entire list and the impression of
> >professionalism, or lack thereof, that others may see coming from the list,
> >that you tone down your sales pitch for your NWA's.  You, yourself, cited
> >the differences in the attached post which you sent to everyone.  Some
> >collectors, and certainly, researchers, put value in Richard's
> >documentation
> >and the time and effort he has put toward his collecting methods;  others
> >just want a meteorite. That is their choice. He and you both have every
> >legal right to offer specimens the way you feel best serves the research
> >and
> >collecting community.
> >
> >Best Wishes,
> >
> >Ron Hartman
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: dean bessey <deanbessey_at_hotmail.com>
> >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:00 AM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] panoramic view in probably carbonaceous
> >chondrites
> >
> >
> > > ******** (they are not NWA ******************
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Richard & Roland PELISSON
> > > >
> > > Thats right. They are not NWAs. But if they were they would be a better
> >deal
> > > for collectors wanting a piece of your really nice meteorite that you
> >found
> > > and for reserachers who want some to study scientifically.
> > > If it was a NWA you could buy this for Say $20 a gram.  Collectors would
> > > have to shell out $20 in cash and researchers would have to give $20 in
> > > value of trade material. People would pay $20 for the meteorite and
> >nothing
> > > for the location data. Total $20 a gram.
> > > However, since it was found by yourself who had a little hand held unit
> >that
> > > cost $400 and gives some numbers made up my man that is reading of a man
> > > made satalite your meteorite now costs $50. Buyers pay $30 a gram toward
> >the
> > > cost of your GPS unit and $20 for the meteorite itself.
> > > Presumably your buyers have an interest to go to the spot that you found
> >i
> >t,
> > > stick up a sign that says "I was here", and take a photo to put into his
> > > meteorite collection.
> > > Without paying the extra 150% people will not have an opportunity to
> >have
> > > this wonderful photo shoot. And the researcher who wants it for study
> >wont
> > > be able to put a photo of him standing next to the fall hole on the
> >cover
> >of
> > > his research report.
> > > Congratulations on a great find. You did better than me on my last
> >desert
> > > search trip.
> > > But thats OK. Rather than finding the stuff myself I have nomads hired
> >to
> >do
> > > the searching for me. Just as good dont you think? After all, every new
> > > medical breakthrough has had most of the work done by graduate students.
> >But
> > > its the professor who gets all of the glory.
> > > Sort of the same dont you think?
> > > Still, I am envious of your find. Congratulations are in order.
> > > Cheers
> > > DEAN
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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