[meteorite-list] Re: Eagle Butte - "Dr." Schimpf and the Royal Tyrell Museu
From: MARK BOSTICK <thebigcollector_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:54:08 2004 Message-ID: <OE122D33lb4fbS3JH470000c81e_at_hotmail.com> ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1BBA3.DB23BBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, As I was saying about a week ago I have few samples of this meteorite I h= ave just gotten I am willing to send out. I should probley look up Wass= en's e-mail and see if he is interseted in looking at them. If someone h= as it handy please send it to me and I will see what he thinks. Other th= en that I am meeting with my Universtiy next week and maybe I can test th= em in one of their labs. I'm really busy so I prefer to send them to Was= son...who is kinda the metal expert...:-) I would just do a simple nickle= test....:-) Here is information that was giving to me a couple months ago form the fi= rst seller when they first started being sold. I think they are probley = impactite but they look more like meteorite shale then the impactite in m= y collection. He has also printed a little information sheet with the on= es I received...... =20 Eagle Butte Alberta, Canada =20 Lat. 49.70; Long: -110.58 Diam. (km): 19; Age (My): 65 +/-. The compositi= on of the fragments are about 80%Fe and 20%Ni. Its between the Bearpaw a= nd Oldman formations Cretaceous/Tertiary. I knew about the crater for yea= rs, but figured it was only an impact blast crater until I met the landow= ner who's property borders a part of the crater. I met him through my gr= andfather, they used to ranch together in the old days. He has had lots = of people ask for permission to explore the crater, but he turns them awa= y. Government and Geologists, Paleontologist's alike tried getting permi= ssion and were denied as well. I am one of the lucky ones I guess, I fou= nd several fragments small and large. Who says it's what you know to get= anywhere in this world, It's who you know that will get you there. I am= permitted to enter his property and explore and collect as I please. No= t to many large fragments were found but there are some buried deeper. D= etectors go wild there. There are probably 100 or more collectors who ha= ve the Eagle Butte specimens but only few sell them. I am probably the fi= rst in this part of Alberta to sell mine. It is an Iron meteorite crater= though. All specimens are magnetic and quite heavy and others are heat g= lazed. I am purchasing a scale soon to measure their weights and try to = sell more. Check out my auctions and see what you think. I can sell or t= rade some to you for a good deal if you interested. Keith Crawford Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharkkb8_at_aol.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:01 PM To: mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Eagle Butte - "Dr." Schimpf and the Royal T= yrell Museum In regard to the rather astonishingly crude and unprofessional emails Mat= teo has been receiving from the self-styled member of the Board of Trustees o= f the Royal Tyrell Museum in Alberta, I sent a polite email to the Museum, explaining the situation in nonaccusatory terms, and asking about Dr. Schimpf's relationship, if any, to the institution. They have very kindly emailed me back, as follows. The response is not surprising, but gratify= ing to know. Hmmm, I just might have a few spare moments to write a little colorful email today....Matteo, what was that email address for "Dr." Schimpf, again?! (Anyone else?) Gregory _________________________________________________________________________= _____ _____ Dear Mr. Wilson, In response to your recent email, the Royal Tyrrell Museum is not governe= d by a board of trustees. Our Cooperating Society, which is a non-profit organization which supports the operation of the Museum, is made up of a 10-member board. However, T.L. Schimpf is not one of its members - nor ha= ve we heard of this individual. The Royal Tyrrell Museum focuses on Alberta's palaeontological history an= d is not directly involved in the study or exhibition of meteorites. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings. Sincerely, Marty Eberth Media and Community Relations Royal Tyrrell Museum PO Box 7500 Drumheller, Alberta, Canada T0J 0Y0 _________________________________________________________________________= _____ ____ Dear good Museum folks, A person by the name of T.L. Schimpf has been defending the sale of an alleged Canadian "meteorite" on ebay, named "Eagle Butte". This meteorit= e name is not recognized by the Meteoritical Society, and potential buyers = have been emailing this person accordingly, questioning the "meteorite's" authenticity. There have alledgedly been email responses from this Dr. Schimpf, who claims to be on your Museum's Board of Trustees, which have = been threatening, obscene and astonishingly unprofessional. If this person is not associated with your Museum, and is merely dishones= tly claiming to be, I think it's important that you know that someone is fraudulently representing you. And if this person does represent your Museum (and is doing such a poor job of it) and is knowingly endorsing th= e sale of a fraudulent meteorite, I would think you would want to know that= , too. Either way, it appears your good Museum may have a problem. Those of us concerned are only interested in establishing the truth, so I welcome you= r comments. Thank you very much. Gregory Wilson I.M.C.A. #5877 2118 Wilshire Blvd #918 Santa Monica, CA 90403 ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1BBA3.DB23BBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Hello All,</DI= V> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As I was saying about a week ago I have few sam= ples of this meteorite I have just gotten I am willing to send out. = I should probley look up Wassen's e-mail and see if he is interset= ed in looking at them. If someone has it handy please send it to me= and I will see what he thinks. Other then that I am meeting with m= y Universtiy next week and maybe I can test them in one of their labs.&nb= sp; I'm really busy so I prefer to send them to Wasson...who is kinda the= metal expert...:-) I would just do a simple nickle test....:-)</DIV> <DI= V> </DIV> <DIV>Here is information that was giving to me a couple mo= nths ago form the first seller when they first started being sold. = I think they are probley impactite but they look more like meteorite shal= e then the impactite in my collection. He has also printed a little= information sheet with the ones I received......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>= <DIV><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> <DT><B>Eagle = Butte</B> Alberta, Canada </DT></DIV> <DIV>Lat. 49.70; Long: -110.58 Diam= . (km): 19; Age (My): 65 +/-. The composition of the fragments are about = 80%Fe and 20%Ni. Its between the Bearpaw and Oldman forma= tions Cretaceous/Tertiary. I knew about the crater for years, but fi= gured it was only an impact blast crater until I met the landowner who's = property borders a part of the crater. I met him through my grandfa= ther, they used to ranch together in the old days. He has had lots = of people ask for permission to explore the crater, but he turns them awa= y. Government and Geologists, Paleontologist's alike tried getting = permission and were denied as well. I am one of the lucky ones I gu= ess, I found several fragments small and large. Who says it's what = you know to get anywhere in this world, It's who you know that will get y= ou there. I am permitted to enter his property and explore and coll= ect as I please. Not to many large fragments were found but there a= re some buried deeper. Detectors go wild there. There are pro= bably 100 or more collectors who have the Eagle Butte specimens but only = few sell them. I am probably the first in this part of Alberta to sell mi= ne. It is an Iron meteorite crater though. All specimens are magnet= ic and quite heavy and others are heat glazed. I am purchasing a sc= ale soon to measure their weights and try to sell more. Check out m= y auctions and see what you think. I can sell or trade some to you for a = good deal if you interested.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Keith Crawford<= /DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mark Bostick "The Big Collector"</DIV></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDIN= G-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIG= HT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</D= IV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B= >From:</B> Sharkkb8_at_aol.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent= :</B> Friday, February 22, 2002 12:01 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt A= rial"><B>To:</B> mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it; meteorite-list@meteoritecen= tral.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite= -list] Re: Eagle Butte - "Dr." Schimpf and the Royal Tyrell Museum</DIV> = <DIV> </DIV><BR>In regard to the rather astonishingly crude and unpr= ofessional emails Matteo<BR>has been receiving from the self-styled membe= r of the Board of Trustees of<BR>the Royal Tyrell Museum in Alberta, I se= nt a polite email to the Museum,<BR>explaining the situation in nonaccusa= tory terms, and asking about Dr.<BR>Schimpf's relationship, if any, to th= e institution. They have very kindly<BR>emailed me back, as follows. = ; The response is not surprising, but gratifying<BR>to know. = Hmmm, I just might have a few spare moments to write a little<BR>colorful= email today....Matteo, what was that email address for "Dr."<BR>Schimpf,= again?!<BR>(Anyone else?)<BR><BR>Gregory<BR><BR>________________________= ______________________________________________________<BR><BR>_____<BR><B= R>Dear Mr. Wilson,<BR>In response to your recent email, the Royal Tyrrell= Museum is not governed by<BR>a board of trustees. Our Cooperating Societ= y, which is a non-profit<BR>organization which supports the operation of = the Museum, is made up of a<BR>10-member board. However, T.L. Schimpf is = not one of its members - nor have<BR>we heard of this individual.<BR><BR>= The Royal Tyrrell Museum focuses on Alberta's palaeontological history an= d is<BR>not directly involved in the study or exhibition of meteorites.<B= R><BR>I hope this clears up any misunderstandings.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR>M= arty Eberth<BR>Media and Community Relations<BR>Royal Tyrrell Museum<BR>P= O Box 7500 Drumheller, Alberta, Canada T0J 0Y0<BR><BR>_____________= _________________________________________________________________<BR><BR>= ____<BR><BR>Dear good Museum folks,<BR><BR>A person by the name of T.L. S= chimpf has been defending the sale of an<BR>alleged Canadian "meteorite" = on ebay, named "Eagle Butte". This meteorite<BR>name is not recogni= zed by the Meteoritical Society, and potential buyers have<BR>been emaili= ng this person accordingly, questioning the "meteorite's"<BR>authenticity= . There have alledgedly been email responses from this Dr.<BR>Schim= pf, who claims to be on your Museum's Board of Trustees, which have been<= BR>threatening, obscene and astonishingly unprofessional.<BR><BR>If this = person is not associated with your Museum, and is merely dishonestly<BR>c= laiming to be, I think it's important that you know that someone is<BR>fr= audulently representing you. And if this person does represen= t your<BR>Museum (and is doing such a poor job of it) and is knowingly en= dorsing the<BR>sale of a fraudulent meteorite, I would think you would wa= nt to know that,<BR>too.<BR><BR>Either way, it appears your good Museum m= ay have a problem. Those of us<BR>concerned are only interested in = establishing the truth, so I welcome your<BR>comments. Thank = you very much.<BR><BR>Gregory Wilson<BR>I.M.C.A. #5877<BR>2118 Wilshire B= lvd #918<BR>Santa Monica, CA 90403<BR><BR>_______________________________= _______________<BR>Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>Meteorite-list_at_meteorit= ecentral.com<BR>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list<B= R></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1BBA3.DB23BBA0-- Received on Fri 22 Feb 2002 02:21:37 PM PST |
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