[meteorite-list] Hot Desert Meteorites

From: Matteo Chinellato <mcomemeteorite2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:54:05 2004
Message-ID: <20020216162313.70459.qmail_at_web10305.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all

I no have problems, I collect all meteorites, is this
NWA, DaG's, Sahara etc....historical, fall's, found's
etc....but no like the prices of the meteorites go in
ruin. I repeat, is no possible a CR2, year ago minimum
you buy for $200/gr. now you pay under $30/gr., under
this way the total market go to the ruin. If I buy a
CR2 from a moroccan person for only $8/gr. - example -
is good for me, but I no sale this for $16/gr., I sale
for $150 or $200. Under this way, at few time you find
lunars for a price of a rare eucrite - type $300/gr. -
and SNC for a normaly achondrite, and this is no good.
Regards

matteo

--- Rhett Bourland <rbourlan_at_evansville.net> wrote:
> I couldn't agree more with Bernd's statements here
> concerning people always
> worrying and bickering about prices of meteorites.
> Plain and simple, how
> much is a certain meteorite worth? However much
> someone will pay for it.
> You don't get much more of an open market than with
> meteorites. I recently
> bought a piece of Lodran (thanks Steve Arnold!) that
> cost a bit more than
> I'm used to spending. Commercially speaking, was it
> worth it? Probally not
> but I really don't care because I didn't have any of
> this type of meteorite
> in my collection. Am I going to get angry at Steve
> because he charged a lot
> for it and call him greedy and say he's just so evil
> for it? OF COURSE
> NOT!!! I gave him a little more money than I would
> have prefferred but much
> much much more importantly I got a piece of this
> rare meteorite that I've
> been wanting for quite some time. Hey, for all
> that, I'm actually happy to
> kick in a little bit of a reward for him there for
> getting such an amazing
> and rare meteorite.
> I'm mostly a collector but do sell a few meteorites
> from time to time and
> have some on my asteroidmodels.com site right now.
> Admittedly, some of them
> are rather pricey but others are right at market
> value (market value being
> what I see most other people charging) if not below
> it. For obvious reasons
> I don't want to go into details about how much or
> how I aquired all of these
> but I will say that some of my larger proffits have
> come from meteorites
> that sold out in a day or two. Am I evil and greedy
> because I made a decent
> proffit from them? I don't think so because the
> people that bought them
> certainly seemed happy enough to have the pieces I
> sold them even though
> they may have payed a bit more than the average
> meteorite. In fact, some of
> the people who bought them have also bought some of
> the other meteorites
> that I've had for sale and they always seem happy
> enough to just have the
> meteorites that they get.
> My point in this email is this; if you're going to
> argue about anything
> concerning the NWA's argue about lack of a detailed
> recovery vs. volume of
> meteorites now in our collective possessions. Don't
> argue about who's the
> greedier dealer. Its simple, A meteorite, any
> meteorite be it NWA or
> classic historical fall of an extremely rare type,
> is worth however much
> someone will pay for it. If you think a meteorite
> costs too much don't buy
> it. Some of the pricier pieces in my collection I'm
> sure dealers have made
> some pretty good money off of me but I really
> couldn't care less because
> that just means that I have another wonderful rock
> from another world that I
> wouldn't be able to own without them.
> My 2 cents,
> Rhett Bourland
> www.asteroidmodels.com
> www.asteroidmodels.com/personal
> www.meteoritecollectors.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com]On
> Behalf Of Bernd
> Pauli HD
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:02 AM
> To: LABENNE METEORITES
> Cc: dean bessey; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Hot Desert Meteorites
>
>
> Luc a écrit:
>
> > ... and about the NWA, those returned recently
> from Marocco
> > say that the quantity they saw in not so bigger
> that before.
>
>
> Bonjour Luc, Hello List,
>
> I was just reading Christian Pinter's article about
> the 2001 Mineral and
> Gem Show in Munic in Meteorite, Feb 2002, Vol. 8,
> No. 1, pp. 38-39,
> when your post arrived here. There are three remarks
> in Christian's
> article that I would like to share with all of us:
>
> 1. Bruno:
>
> "But today there is only one tenth of what
> had been found in Morocco two years ago."
>
> 2. Ahmed Pani:
>
> "There is really less material coming from the
> Sahara now."
>
> 3. Erich Haiderer:
>
> "There is still enough out there for decades to
> come."
>
> > For me there are not good or bad meteorites, there
> are well documented or
> > poorly documented meteorites, well preserved or
> weathered meteorites, nice
> > or bad looking meteorites and scientifically
> important or not meteorites,
> with
> > all the intermediate states.
>
> I absolutely agree with the above words! Very often
> conversations about
> our love for meteorites oscillate between how
> exotic, common, or
> historical they are, and, on the other hand we
> complain (!) about the
> decreasing prices and monetary values of our Hot
> Desert meteorites. One
> list member wrote to me in a private mail that
> prices for historical
> falls like - say, Juvinas, Steinbach, etc. - will
> never decrease as much
> as the prices for those classified or unclassified
> NWAs. Again our views
> are shifting towards the financial investigation and
> away from our
> enthusiasm for those "heavenly messengers". A lunar
> is a lunar, a
> Martian is a Martian. I for my part collect
> meteorites because I love
> them, not because I want to investigate and make
> profits - after all I
> am not a dealer but a collector.
>
> When we started collecting these asteroidal "crumbs"
> many years ago, we
> said: "Oh, if I only had a eucrite in my
> collection!" Now some of us
> will say: "A eucrite would be OK ... what? It's a
> NWA! ... and there are
> no coordinates, no total weight, ... ah, well I
> think I had better buy a
> Stannern eucrite. Thus I won't lose my money!
>
> And now a quick glance at Stannern in my database:
>
> Stannern: brecciated; monomict; noncumulate
>
> And, as a comparison, one of those Hot Desert
> meteorites:
>
> Sahara 98110: brecciated; monomict
>
> Any difference? OK, I know the Sahara 98110 does
> have coordinates which
> the Labennes will disclose at a later time, but do
> coordinates make a
> eucrite a eucrite? A scientifical approach to this
> problem would be
> different (see my post re: "NWA meteorites blessing
> or omen? / Wed, 13
> Feb 2002) but, again, I am not a meteoriticist, I am
> a collector!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Bernd
>
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