[meteorite-list] OT: the Big questions

From: Matson, Robert <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:54:02 2004
Message-ID: <AF564D2B9D91D411B9FE00508BF1C8698E59A5_at_US-Torrance.mail.saic.com>

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Bob wrote:
 
> What I gather from all this is that man just really doesn't know how it
all
> began. Just like the chicken or the egg dilemma.
 
Actually, the chicken/egg question is far simpler to answer. Egg came
first -- warm-blooded reptile egg. Chickens (birds in general) trace their
evolution back to dinosaurs.
 
> I was intrigued by the idea that time and space really doesn't exist
except
> in our imagination. So, in other words: Man devised time and space
> (distance) just so he would have a way of explaining or understanding
> his physical existence in the universe, in the here and now.
 
They are useful labels for perceived physical properties (position and
velocity). Whether they have any objective reality (or for that matter
whether anything does) is an interesting philosophical question --
one that may ultimately be answerable by science.
 
> I reckon I'll have to wait until I "kick the bucket" and ask God for
> the answer to all my questions.
 
42. (Douglas Adams fans will know what I mean). Your decision is
logically sound: if there is indeed a God, you can ask away. Of
course, He may not choose to oblige you with answers. ;-) On
the other hand, if there is no God or whatever you choose to call
a Supreme Intelligence, then you won't be around in the hereafter
to pose such questions or care about the answers.
 
--Rob


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>Bob
wrote:</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial lang=0 size=2
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002>&gt;</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002>&nbsp;</SPAN>What I gather from all this is that man
just really doesn't know how it all<SPAN class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&gt;</FONT></SPAN> began.&nbsp;
Just like the chicken or the egg dilemma.<SPAN class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>Actually, the chicken/egg question
is far simpler to answer.&nbsp; Egg
came</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>first -- warm-blooded reptile
egg.&nbsp; Chickens (birds in general)
trace&nbsp;their</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>evolution back to
dinosaurs.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&gt; </FONT></SPAN>I was intrigued
by the idea that time and space really doesn't exist except<SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&gt;</FONT></SPAN> in our
imagination.<SPAN class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&nbsp;
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT><FONT size=2>So, in
other words: Man devised time and space<SPAN class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&gt;</FONT></SPAN> (distance) just
so he would have a way of explaining or understanding<SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&gt;</FONT></SPAN> his physical
existence in the universe, in the here and now.<SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>They are useful labels for
perceived physical&nbsp;properties (position
and</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>velocity).&nbsp; Whether they have
any objective reality (or for that
matter</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>whether anything does) is an
interesting philosophical question --</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>one that
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN class=936300321-06022002>may ultimately be
answerable by science.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&gt; </FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN>I reckon
I'll have to wait until I "kick the bucket" and ask God for<SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>&gt;</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN> the answer
to all my questions.<SPAN class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>42.&nbsp; (Douglas Adams fans will
know what I mean).&nbsp; Your decision
is</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>logically sound:&nbsp; if there is
indeed a God, you can ask away.&nbsp;
Of</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>course,&nbsp;He may not choose to
oblige you with&nbsp;answers.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp;
On</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>the
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000 lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>other hand, if
there is no God or whatever you choose to
call</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>a Supreme Intelligence, then you
won't be around in the </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000
lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN class=936300321-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff>hereafter</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002><FONT color=#0000ff>to pose&nbsp;such questions or care
about the answers.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN class=936300321-06022002></SPAN><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=936300321-06022002>--Rob</SPAN><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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