[meteorite-list] Saint-Severin, Chinga, Foote

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From: SaharaTeam_at_aol.com <SaharaTeam_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:53:59 2004
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Hello Rob,

in the archives of the mailing you will find a mail from Michel Franco (link=
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below). It's a document from the CEA (French Research Center) concerning the=
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fall of Saint-Severin. We can add that this publication includes a=20
calculation of the atmospheric trajectory, position of the different=20
fragmentations and possible orbit.

Trajectory : 282=B0 W-NW
eight fragments on 10 km
TKW : 271 kg

 Orbital speed: 35.9 km/s
 Entry speed related to Earth : 14 km/s +or- 1.4 km/s

 First break point :=20
 - altitude : 15.3 km +or- 0.8 km
 - speed : 2.4 km/s +or- 0.3 km/s
 - incidence angle : 17.2=B0 +or- 0.9=B0
 - abscissa from final 113 kg impact : 22 km +or- 2 km
=20

To obtain this document contact:
Service Central de Documentation du CEA
CEN-Saclay
B.P. n=B02
91190 GIF-SUR-YVETTE
FRANCE

Best Regards,
Richard & Roland Pelisson
www.SaharaMet.com

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original mail from Michel Franco
http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2001-April/003213.html
[meteorite-list] Re: Small crater size info wanted
Thanks ever present Bernd !I am proud to add to your list the Saint Severin=20
fall (amphoterite LL6)27 june 1966 at 15 h 40 legal time in France) where 8=20
objects dug holes in our country:
A) 113 kg fell on a calcarous cliff and bouced down on a path.
B) 57.6 kg dug a 0.80 m dia hole at 0.50 depth
C) 27.2 kg dug a 0.50 m dia hole at .040 depth
D) 19.9 kg dug a 0.30 m dia hole at 1.50 m depth
E ) 2.7 kg fell on a paved path
F) 45 kg dug a 0.40 m dia hole ar 1.85 m depth
G) 0.35 kg layed on the ground
h) 5.2 kg was found at 0.70 m depth
This fall happened in different soils which explains that the depth ofburial=
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are not deeper when object louder.
from=20
 La m=E9t=E9orite de Saint Severin
 Recherche de la trajectoire atmosph=E9rique et de l'orbite
 by Daniel Nordemann, Jacques Tobailem, Charles- Henri de LAssus S=
t=20
Genies
 CEA report CEA -R- 4045 Nov 1970
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 01/02/02 05:49:10 Paris, Madrid,=20
farmerm_at_concentric.net a =E9crit :

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> Saint Severin is only 40 years old, so there cant be much old documentatio=
n
> or artwork for that one.
> I may have the Holbrook information still.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob and Colleen" <iguana_at_pcez.com>
> To: "meteorite-list" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:18 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Saint-Severin, Chinga, Foote
>=20
>=20
> > Hello all-
> >
> > Three questions in one post. Does anyone have any info on the
> > Saint-Severin fall, The Chinga find, or Foote documentation for
> > Holbrook. On the fist two, I am looking beyond the MetCat information
> > and am more interested in the fall/find info versus the lithology and
> > metallurgy. Any old artwork on Saint-Severin? On Foote, anything would
> > be great. Someone out there used to have a copy of Foote documents to go
> > along with Holbrook sales but I forget who it was. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Rob Wesel
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<HTML>Hello Rob,
 
 in the archives of the mailing you will find a mail from Michel Franco (=
link below). It's a document from the CEA (French Research Center) concernin=
g the fall of Saint-Severin. We can add that this publication includes a cal=
culation of the atmospheric trajectory, position of the different fragmentat=
ions and possible orbit.
 
 Trajectory : 282=B0 W-NW
 eight fragments on 10 km
 TKW : 271 kg
 
  Orbital speed: 35.9 km/s
  Entry speed related to Earth : 14 km/s +or- 1.4 km/s
 
  First break point :=20
  - altitude : 15.3 km +or- 0.8 km
  - speed : 2.4 km/s +or- 0.3 km/s
  - incidence angle : 17.2=B0 +or- 0.9=B0
  - abscissa from final 113 kg impact : 22 km +or- 2 km
  
 
 To obtain this document contact:
 Service Central de Documentation du CEA
 CEN-Saclay
 B.P. n=B02
 91190 GIF-SUR-YVETTE
 FRANCE
 
 Best Regards,
 Richard & Roland Pelisson
 www.SaharaMet.com
 
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 original mail from Michel Franco
 http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2001-April/003213.html
 [meteorite-list] Re: Small crater size info wanted
 Thanks ever present Bernd !I am proud to add to your list the Saint Seve=
rin fall (amphoterite LL6)27 june 1966 at 15 h 40 legal time in France) wher=
e 8 objects dug holes in our country:
 A) 113 kg fell on a calcarous cliff and bouced down on a path.
 B) 57.6 kg dug a 0.80 m dia hole at 0.50 depth
 C) 27.2 kg dug a 0.50 m dia hole at .040 depth
 D) 19.9 kg dug a 0.30 m dia hole at 1.50 m depth
 E ) 2.7 kg fell on a paved path
 F) 45 kg dug a 0.40 m dia hole ar 1.85 m depth
 G) 0.35 kg layed on the ground
 h) 5.2 kg was found at 0.70 m depth
 This fall happened in different soils which explains that the depth ofbu=
rial are not deeper when object louder.
 from=20
           La m=E9t=
=E9orite de Saint Severin
           Recherche d=
e la trajectoire atmosph=E9rique et de l'orbite
           by Daniel N=
ordemann, Jacques Tobailem, Charles- Henri de LAssus St Genies
          CEA report CEA -R=
- 4045 Nov 1970
 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 
 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 01/02/02 05:49:10 Paris, Madrid, farmerm_at_concen=
tric.net a =E9crit :
 
 
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LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
 Saint Severin is only 40 years old, so there cant be much old documentat=
ion
 or artwork for that one.
 I may have the Holbrook information still.
 Mike Farmer
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Rob and Colleen" <iguana_at_pcez.com>
 To: "meteorite-list" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:18 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Saint-Severin, Chinga, Foote
 
 
 > Hello all-
 >
 > Three questions in one post. Does anyone have any info on the
 > Saint-Severin fall, The Chinga find, or Foote documentation for
 > Holbrook. On the fist two, I am looking beyond the MetCat informati=
on
 > and am more interested in the fall/find info versus the lithology a=
nd
 > metallurgy. Any old artwork on Saint-Severin? On Foote, anything wo=
uld
 > be great. Someone out there used to have a copy of Foote documents=20=
to go
 > along with Holbrook sales but I forget who it was. Thanks in advanc=
e.
 >
 > --
 > Rob Wesel
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