[meteorite-list] numbering of meteorites

From: Rhett Bourland <rbourlan_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:47:04 2004
Message-ID: <IOEBKAHMGFBDJMOFGDFNMEIGCMAA.rbourlan_at_evansville.net>

And to add just a little bit more understanding to your wonderful new
Sikhote-Alin you asked below if Krinov was the first person to investigate
the Tunguska event. The first person to do so was Kulik who died fighting
in WWII. If I'm not mistaken Krinov was sort of an understudy of him
though.
Best wishes,
Rhett Bourland
www.asteroidmodels.com
www.asteroidmodels.com/personal

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Dave
Harris
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Rob Lenssen; Meteorite List
Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] numbering of meteorites


Hi Rob,
This is excellent stuff! This is why I love the list... it has so much good
and relevant details to contribute!
The gift that keeps on giving!
thanks!
dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Lenssen" <rlenssen_at_tref.nl>
To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>; "Dave Harris"
<entropydave_at_ic24.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] numbering of meteorites


> Hi Dave,
>
> It's not that I want to spoil your party, but I also own a
> Sikhote-Alin-with-a-label, and just like you did some research.
>
> This is what I found:
>
> Krinov's book "Giant Meteorites" contains a great section about the
> Sikhote-Alin meteorite shower. There are nice pictures like this one
> (http://leden.tref.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg) of some of the 313 unfragmented
> whole single specimens found during the 1947-1950 expeditions. It also
> contains a complete list of all specimens found, including their Soviet
> Academy of Sciences inventory numbers. They are all four digit numbers
> starting at least with a "1". Lots of 1600-numbers though.
>
> In the journal Chem. d. Erde (15 Chem. Erde Bd. XXIX; in German) dated
1970
> (Walter Zeitschel kindly provided me with a copy 6 years ago), Dr. Krinov
> also reports about the 1967-1969 expeditions. Also some pictures here like
> this one (http://leden.tref.nl/~rlenssen/SA3.jpg). Also two and three
number
> digits this time. Krinov reports about 958 more unfragmented whole single
> specimens found. He talkes about good preservation of the crust, although
> also having brown color due to oxidation. More expeditions were expected
to
> follow (1970 and later).
>
> Dave, your typewritten '0086'-number on a "look like linen"-label,
reminded
> me of a picture a saw in a dealers catalog ("Catalog and handbook of
> meteorites") I received in 1992. Does your sample look like this number
> "0067", I scanned from the catalog: http://leden.tref.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg
?
> I don't know it's origin, but it certainly does not have the surface
quality
> of the 1947-1950 Krinov finds.
>
> No answers here, but I hope you appreciate the information.
>
> I am also stil looking for information on the orgin of my sample
> (http://leden.tref.nl/~rlenssen/SikhoteAlin-7a.jpg ,
> http://leden.tref.nl/~rlenssen/SikhoteAlin-7b.jpg ,
> http://leden.tref.nl/~rlenssen/SikhoteAlin-7e.jpg). I bought it from Eric
> Twelker from "meteoritemarket" + like it very much. It does not look be
> wire-brushed or chemically cleaned. Trying to find some info, I sent an
> Email to the curator of the Soviet Academy of Sciences collection two
months
> ago, but did not get an answer (yet).
> Anybody else who can shed some light here?
>
> Rob Lenssen
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Dave Harris <entropydave_at_ic24.net>
> Aan: geoking_at_notkin.net <geoking@notkin.net>; metlist
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> CC: Rob and Colleen <iguana_at_pcez.com>
> Datum: donderdag 1 november 2001 19:53
> Onderwerp: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] numbering of meteorites
>
>
> >Hi Geoff!
> >Wow! That's some detective work - amazing!!
> >And that's also some provenance too! Wasn't Krinov the first
investigator
> >of the Tunguska event? I know that name...
> >I am totally in love with that SA anyway - it was on the original eBay
> >advert - I recall showing it to a (rather bored) colleague at work saying
"
> >that's m'boy! I want that one!", but obviously, not being in the running
> for
> >the whole collection I thought it impossible I would procure it - then
the
> >inestimable Mr. Wesel swoops in from no where and scoops the lot and
> whaddya
> >know! I get the chance to buy it!
> >I prevaricated for a day - had I not I would have had your one too!!!
> >So, a multitude of thanks to all of those involved - you, Steve Schoner
(a
> >name I have seen an awful lot on the list!) and Rob Wesel for giving me
the
> >opportunity to purchase this breathtaking specimen!
> >it's gone to a great home!
> >
> >dave
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> >To: <entropydave_at_ic24.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:14 PM
> >Subject: Fwd: Re: [meteorite-list] numbering of meteorites
> >
> >
> >> Steve Schoner posted:
> >>
> >> >These are original Soviet Academy of Sciences labels. That is the
> >> >way the did it, and I have in my collection two pieces that were
> >> >sent to me by the late Dr. Krinov in 1972 with the same type labels--
> >>
> >> Holy cow! I was hoping they were maybe Russian labels, but I had no
> >evidence.
> >>
> >> Steve Schoner should know -- he is quite the expert (and a very nice
> >> guy). This is very exciting. Okay, so if you ever decide to get rid
> >> of that Sikhote, I'm your customer : )
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Geoff N>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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