[meteorite-list] A whopper from Deming, NM (update)

From: meteorites_at_space.com <meteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:46:23 2004
Message-ID: <20010512191712.11933.cpmta_at_c000.snv.cp.net>

On Sat, 12 May 2001, gle_at_impop.bellatlantic.net wrote:

>
> DEAR STEVE & LIST, Was this person subjected to wearing a dog collar in
> locked closet during childhood or is there some real brain pathology
> going on here?? I get very frustrated with people like this. I only hope
> that these individuals are never in a position to really affect other
> people's lives- REGARDS, GRANT ELLIOTT
>


Grant and all,

Here is the latest in the saga. Trying to convince this guy otherwise is like taking a swing at the proverbial "tar baby."

First it gets your hand, then it gets your other hand, then it gets your foot when you try to push yourself away. "Oh, please throw me into the briar patch, I say..."

Here it is:



HELLO AGN MR SHONER,
 I HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTING THE RESPONSES I'M GETTING FROM ALL YOU
SCIENTISTS
OR SCIENTIFIC TYPES AND THIS IS FURTHER PROOF OF WHAT I'M SAYING. MY
CLAIMS
ARE THAT I HAVE SENT YOU EIGHT SAMPLES SO FAR AND THEY WERE ALL
METEORITES
AND YOU TYPICALLY WERE 100 % WRONG IN IDENTIFYING THEM.WHAT YOU PEOPLE
ARE
LOOKING FOR IS BEYOND ME, IT IS AS PLAIN AS THE NOSE ON YOUR FACE WHEN
YOU
SEE ONE. YOU PEOPLE HAVE MADE A MOLD IN YOUR MIND OF WHAT A METEORITE
IS AND
IF ANY SAMPLE DOES NOT FIT THAT MOLD , THEN IT IS'NT A METEORITE
-PERIOD!!!.
THEN AS YEARS GO BY THIS MOLD GETS A LITTLE BIGGER AS YOU PEOPLE
GRADULLY
WAKE UP. WELL MY MOLD IS AS BIG AS THE UNIVERSE AND I'M NOT BLIND TO
REALITY
OR SWALLOWED BY FICTION SO I TEND TO RECOGNIZE A METEORITE WHEN I SEE
ONE.
JUST WISH YOU WOULD OPEN YOUR EYES, YOU HAVE MORE METEORITES IN YOUR
METEORWRONG PILE THAN YOU HAVE ON YOUR GOODY SHELF. I'M NOT LAUGHING AT
YOU
GUYS, I'M REALLY SORRY FOR YOU . TRUTH IS UNSHAKEABLE , UNDENIABLE, AND
OFTEN STRANGER THAN FICTION , HOW YOU HANDLE IT IS DEPENDANT ON THE
PERCENTAGES OF CERTAIN TYPES OF METEORITE MATERIALS YOU CONSUME IN
YOU'R
DAILY DIET, I SUPPOSE, AND YOU ARE REALLY A PRODUCT OF THE STARS MORE
SO
THAN YOU REALIZE. BEST WISHES, : Arthur
                                                                    
 
> meteorites_at_space.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello folks, just thought I would share with you a real whopper from a guy in Deming, NM. I get hundreds of e-mails at my meteorite identification site ( http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification ) per month, but this is one of the best thought I'd share it. The text is all in upper case and with the spelling as he sent it.
> >
> > BTW-- This person was all bent out of shape after I told him that the rocks he sent me for identification, were not meteorites:
> >
> > "HELLO FROM : Arthur IN DEMING, N.M., I HAVE NEWS THAT IS RATHER ASTOUNDING AND AT FIRST SOMEWHAT UNBELIEVABLE, BUT IF YOU ARE A SCIENTIST INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH , THEN YOU WILL HEAR ME OUT AND CHECK OUT THE INFORMATION I AM ABOUT TO REVEAL . THE CITY OF ROCKS , 25 MILES NORTH OF DEMING IS A GIANT COLLECTION OF METEORITES, COMPLETE WITH FUSION CRUST . THERE MUST BE AT LEAST A MILLION TONS OF METEORITES THERE AND THEY ARE OF THE STONY VARIETY, CALLED ACHONDRITES , PROBABLY DIOGENITES. I HAVE DISCOVERED MANY MORE LARGE METEORITES ALSO IN LUNA COUNTY. THE GOLD IN GOLD BASIN ARIZONA CAME FROM THE GOLD BASIN METEORITES. THE GREAT COPPER CHUNKS IN MICHIGAN ARE METEORITE FRAGMENTS. THE COPPER MINES IN ARIZONA AND N.M. ARE ALSO FROM METEORITES, THE DIAMONDS IN AFRICA ARE FROM METEORITES, THE SURFACE COAL DEPOSITS IN KENTUCKY , N.M. AND ELSEWHERE ARE CARBONACEOUS CHONDRITES IN LARGE QUANTITY. I HAVEN'T CHECKED OUT THE GREAT STONES IN TEXAS CANYON IN ARIZONA AND IN THE FORT DAVIS- BI!
> G BEND AREA OF TEXAS , BUT I'LL BET THEY ARE ALSO STONEY METEORITES . METEORITES ARE NOT RARE AS IS COMMONLY BELIEVED , WHAT IS RARE IS THE FINDING OF SOMEONE WHO CAN RECOGNIZE THEM. I THINK IT IS HIGH TIME YOU SCIENTISTS WAKE UP AND FACE UP TO THE TRUTHS ABOUT METEORITES. IF YOU ARE A TRUE SCIENTIST INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH , THEN I WOULD APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU, IF YOU ARE BENT ON BELIEVING A LIE , THEN I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. I HOPE YOU TAKE THE TIME AND EFFORT TO DETERMINE THE TRUTHFULNESS OF MY CLAIMS . THERE IS MUCH MORE TO TELL , BUT THIS INFORMATION SHOULD SUFFICE FOR NOW. SINCERELY, : Arthur:
> >
> > -----
> > And after I gave him the correct, obvious and short obligitory response (with an invitation to apporach us with his mountain of meteorites-- the following is his response:
> > -----
> >
> > Date Fri, 11 May 2001 11:16:25 -0600
> >
> > HELLO MR. SCHONER,
> > THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY ANDYOUR VIEWS, HOWEVER MUCH I DISAGREE WITH THEM. I PREFER NOT TO HACK AWAY WITH NON-PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE (BY POSTING AS YOU SUGGEST)AS I AM HAVING ENOUGH TROUBLE CONVINCING PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER. MY PROOF IS IN THE FORM OF MANY TONS OF MATERIALS DIRECTLY FROM OUTER SPACE. YOU CAN COME YOU CAN SEE , BUT IF YOUR COMPRENSION OF REALITY DOES NOT OVERCOME YOUR BIAS THEN I'M AFRAID I'M WASTING MY TIME WITH YOU.YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED TO COME TO DEMING AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, I WON' ARGUE WITH YOU AT ALL , JUST SHOW YOU THE EVIDENCE . ARE YOU AFRAID OF THAT?? IF NOT, THEN HOPE IN YOUR WAGON AND COME ON DOWN, CALL ME WHEN YOU ARRIVE AND WE WILL BE OFF AND RUNNING TO REALITY INSTEAD OF FICTION. I CAN NOT MAKE IT ANY SIMPLER THAN THAT , SO IF YOU'R UP TO THE PROOF- CHALLENGE, BRING ANY PROFFESSIONAL YOU CAN MUSTER AND LETS GET IT ON.
> > SINCERELY,
> > : Arthur
> >
> > ----
> >
> > The above just goes to show that some people choose to remain ignorant even when clear and convincing (at least to us) evidence is presented to them.
> >
> > Steve Schoner
> > http://www.geocites.com/american_meteorite_survey
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> > Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

___________________________________________________________________
Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com.
Received on Sat 12 May 2001 03:17:12 PM PDT