[meteorite-list] A whopper from Deming, NM

From: Michael Cottingham <mikewren_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:46:23 2004
Message-ID: <001401c0daf7$bb78b040$6edaead8_at_hppav>

Hello,

This guy has been bothering me for several years now. He lives
about 60 miles from me and I have met with him several times.
He has showed me nothing but Earth rocks.....not even good
meteorite-wrongs. I remember selling him several real
meteorites ...so that he could use them for field identification.

I concluded after dealing with him that he has only 38 cards
in his deck. I find these events really sad....actually.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: <meteorites_at_space.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 8:30 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] A whopper from Deming, NM


> Hello folks, just thought I would share with you a real whopper from a guy
in Deming, NM. I get hundreds of e-mails at my meteorite identification
site ( http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification ) per month, but
this is one of the best thought I'd share it. The text is all in upper case
and with the spelling as he sent it.
>
> BTW-- This person was all bent out of shape after I told him that the
rocks he sent me for identification, were not meteorites:
>
> "HELLO FROM : Arthur IN DEMING, N.M., I HAVE NEWS THAT IS RATHER
ASTOUNDING AND AT FIRST SOMEWHAT UNBELIEVABLE, BUT IF YOU ARE A SCIENTIST
INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH , THEN YOU WILL HEAR ME OUT AND CHECK OUT THE
INFORMATION I AM ABOUT TO REVEAL . THE CITY OF ROCKS , 25 MILES NORTH OF
DEMING IS A GIANT COLLECTION OF METEORITES, COMPLETE WITH FUSION CRUST .
THERE MUST BE AT LEAST A MILLION TONS OF METEORITES THERE AND THEY ARE OF
THE STONY VARIETY, CALLED ACHONDRITES , PROBABLY DIOGENITES. I HAVE
DISCOVERED MANY MORE LARGE METEORITES ALSO IN LUNA COUNTY. THE GOLD IN GOLD
BASIN ARIZONA CAME FROM THE GOLD BASIN METEORITES. THE GREAT COPPER CHUNKS
IN MICHIGAN ARE METEORITE FRAGMENTS. THE COPPER MINES IN ARIZONA AND N.M.
ARE ALSO FROM METEORITES, THE DIAMONDS IN AFRICA ARE FROM METEORITES, THE
SURFACE COAL DEPOSITS IN KENTUCKY , N.M. AND ELSEWHERE ARE CARBONACEOUS
CHONDRITES IN LARGE QUANTITY. I HAVEN'T CHECKED OUT THE GREAT STONES IN
TEXAS CANYON IN ARIZONA AND IN THE FORT DAVIS- BIG BEND AREA OF TEXAS , BUT
I'LL BET THEY ARE ALSO STONEY METEORITES . METEORITES ARE NOT RARE AS IS
COMMONLY BELIEVED , WHAT IS RARE IS THE FINDING OF SOMEONE WHO CAN RECOGNIZE
THEM. I THINK IT IS HIGH TIME YOU SCIENTISTS WAKE UP AND FACE UP TO THE
TRUTHS ABOUT METEORITES. IF YOU ARE A TRUE SCIENTIST INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH
, THEN I WOULD APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU, IF YOU ARE BENT ON BELIEVING A
LIE , THEN I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. I HOPE YOU TAKE THE TIME AND
EFFORT TO DETERMINE THE TRUTHFULNESS OF MY CLAIMS . THERE IS MUCH MORE TO
TELL , BUT THIS INFORMATION SHOULD SUFFICE FOR NOW. SINCERELY, : Arthur:
>
> -----
> And after I gave him the correct, obvious and short obligitory response
(with an invitation to apporach us with his mountain of meteorites-- the
following is his response:
> -----
>
> Date Fri, 11 May 2001 11:16:25 -0600
>
> HELLO MR. SCHONER,
> THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY ANDYOUR VIEWS, HOWEVER MUCH I DISAGREE WITH THEM. I
PREFER NOT TO HACK AWAY WITH NON-PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE (BY POSTING AS YOU
SUGGEST)AS I AM HAVING ENOUGH TROUBLE CONVINCING PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW
BETTER. MY PROOF IS IN THE FORM OF MANY TONS OF MATERIALS DIRECTLY FROM
OUTER SPACE. YOU CAN COME YOU CAN SEE , BUT IF YOUR COMPRENSION OF REALITY
DOES NOT OVERCOME YOUR BIAS THEN I'M AFRAID I'M WASTING MY TIME WITH YOU.YOU
ARE CORDIALLY INVITED TO COME TO DEMING AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, I WON' ARGUE
WITH YOU AT ALL , JUST SHOW YOU THE EVIDENCE . ARE YOU AFRAID OF THAT?? IF
NOT, THEN HOPE IN YOUR WAGON AND COME ON DOWN, CALL ME WHEN YOU ARRIVE AND
WE WILL BE OFF AND RUNNING TO REALITY INSTEAD OF FICTION. I CAN NOT MAKE IT
ANY SIMPLER THAN THAT , SO IF YOU'R UP TO THE PROOF- CHALLENGE, BRING ANY
PROFFESSIONAL YOU CAN MUSTER AND LETS GET IT ON.
> SINCERELY,
> : Arthur
>
> ----
>
> The above just goes to show that some people choose to remain ignorant
even when clear and convincing (at least to us) evidence is presented to
them.
>
> Steve Schoner
> http://www.geocites.com/american_meteorite_survey
>
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