[meteorite-list] Dhofar Lunaites

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From: Mike Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:44:31 2004
Message-ID: <3A9DDBC4.B28D818E_at_concentric.net>

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I don't know if the Dhofar meteorites are far from that at all. How do
we know the the given information is correct? I do not doubt it, but
after the Dar al Gani mars rocks, it would seem that some dishonesty was
occuring there, popping out a new piece every few months, as though they
did not recognize it from the start as the same damn thing.
Mike Farmer

MeteorHntr_at_aol.com wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 2/28/01 1:44:23 PM Central Standard Time,
> GShanos_at_aol.com
> writes:
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear List Members:
>>
>> What is the official word? Are all the Dhofar's 025, 026 an 081
>> paired?
>> Look forward to hearing from everyone.
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Greg Shanos
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Greg,
>
> I have both he 025 and the 026 for sale and there is nothing remotely
> similar
> to them.
>
> With the Dhofar specimens, there is honest reporting of all the
> details of
> the find; such as the date of find, exact longitude and latitude of
> the
> finds, accurate TKW info and the like. Also, these specimens have
> been found
> by professional meteorite hunters and not simply gathered by nomads
> and then
> run through a system of handlers before brought to market like most of
> the
> NWA specimens. This is not to be meant as a "slam" against the NWA's;
> I have
> sold a few NWA's myself and I will sell more in the future, it is
> simply a
> statement of fact.
>
> I think Mike Farmer has been the most open about explaining the state
> of
> meteorite affairs in Morocco. It is important to know however, the
> Dhofar
> situation is far from like that.
>
> While much of a meteorite's value should stand on what type of a
> meteorite it
> is, not based on the exact location where it was found; one very
> important
> consideration in determining a potential value is the Total Known
> Weight
> found. It might be easy to figure out that all (or at least most all)
> of the
> EH3 specimen found in the Sahara will (or should be) paired, it is
> next to
> impossible to know if your Saharan H5 specimen is one of a a thousand
> stones
> from one fall, or if it might be the entire mass of a fall. Or you
> might not
> know if next week a new fragment for the same fall of your new
> achondrite
> might increase the TKW by 10 fold.
>
> Thoughts to consider.
>
> As to the details of your specific question about pairing, you can
> find a lot
> of great information at Washington University's site here:
>
> http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/moon_meteorites.html
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Arnold

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I don't know if the Dhofar meteorites are far from that at all. How do
we know the the given information is correct? I do not doubt it, but after
the Dar al Gani mars rocks, it would seem that some dishonesty was occuring
there, popping out a new piece every few months, as though they did not
recognize it from the start as the same damn thing.
 Mike Farmer
MeteorHntr_at_aol.com wrote:
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In a message dated 2/28/01
1:44:23 PM Central Standard Time, GShanos_at_aol.com
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Dear List Members:
What is the official word? 
Are all the Dhofar's 025, 026 an 081 paired?
 Look forward to hearing
from everyone.
Sincerely
 Greg Shanos</blockquote>

  
  
Hello Greg,
I have both he
025 and the 026 for sale and there is nothing remotely similar
 to them.
With the Dhofar
specimens, there is honest reporting of all the details of
 the find; such
as the date of find, exact longitude and latitude of the
 finds, accurate
TKW info and the like.  Also, these specimens have been found
 by professional
meteorite hunters and not simply gathered by nomads and then
 run through
a system of handlers before brought to market like most of the
 NWA specimens. 
This is not to be meant as a "slam" against the NWA's; I have
 sold a few NWA's
myself and I will sell more in the future, it is simply a
 statement of
fact.
I think Mike
Farmer has been the most open about explaining the state of
 meteorite affairs
in Morocco.  It is important to know however, the Dhofar
 situation is
far from like that.
While much of
a meteorite's value should stand on what type of a meteorite it
 is, not based
on the exact location where it was found; one very important
 consideration
in determining a potential value is the Total Known Weight
 found. 
It might be easy to figure out that all (or at least most all) of the
 EH3 specimen
found in the Sahara will (or should be) paired, it is next to
 impossible to
know if your Saharan H5 specimen is one of a a thousand stones
 from one fall,
or if it might be the entire mass of a fall.  Or you might not
 know if next
week a new fragment for the same fall of your new achondrite
 might increase
the TKW by 10 fold.
Thoughts to consider.
As to the details
of your specific question about pairing, you can find a lot
 of great information
at Washington University's site here:
<A HREF="http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/moon_meteorites.html">http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/moon_meteorites.html</A>
I hope this helps.
Steve
Steve Arnold</blockquote>
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