[meteorite-list] Jalu meteorite and Carion practices

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From: Impactika_at_aol.com <Impactika_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:44:14 2004
Message-ID: <a.ee1f719.286d3886_at_aol.com>

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In a message dated 6/18/2001 10:50:59 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
SaharaTeam_at_aol.com writes:

> Impactika_at_aol.com wrote:
>
> >> also with great black shock veins, and a beautiful smooth shiny dark
>> crust!
>> It is a L6 from Libya (with a name, not a number) :-)
>>
>
>
> Not a number and NOT an official name in the Meteoritical Bulletin, perhaps
> you could explain!
>
> JALU: in fact Nalut, Libya, Northwest Hammada al Hamra near Tunisian
> border,
> multiple finds with no GPS location.
> Perhaps 100 km South of the town of Nalut, if this is true we are near the
> town of Sinawan in the area of the Sinawan meteorites, so Sinawan 005 would
> be a better name. Possibly paired with the first L6 chondrite discovered on
> the area: Sinawan 001 (three pieces of 8.2, 7.2 and 2.15 kg).
>
> Some French people want to extend the NWA prospecting with data lost in
> Libya and on the Hammada al Hamra strewnfield. We ask the Nom. Com. to act
> quickly against such behavior.
> And perhaps A. Carion could explain to us readily what he is trying to
> develop in Libya.
>
> Best regards,
> Richard & Roland Pelisson
> http://www.saharamet.com/
>
> STOP PLUNDERING SAHARAN COUNTRIES!
>

Hello List-members,

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I finally got hold of Alain Carion, back
from the Stainte Marie aux Mines Show and I have a few answers that I would
like to share with all of you:

JALU:
Has nothing to do with Nalut, or Sinawan or Hammada al Hamra. Those locations
are in WESTERN Libya, close to the Tunisian border. Jalu was found in
EASTERN Libya, by the Egyptian border.

CLASSIFICATION / PUBLICATION:
A piece of Jalu has been in the Musee d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris for about
a year, and so far Alain has only received a preliminary report. However
Alain has all the information (coordinates, total weight, ...etc.) and it
will be classified, published, submitted to the Nom. Com. as soon as possible.

This is not a new or isolated problem. Alain has several other meteorites in
the Musee waiting for their day in the lab. (One from Niger is really
interesting. It has metal veins!).

Maybe Dean is right, maybe we need a commercial service to analyze meteorites.

And maybe this is the kind of service a Meteorite Association could sponsor.

Any comments?

Anne Black
http://www.IMPACTIKA.com
IMPACTIKA_at_aol.com
http://www.TheMineralCompany.com

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<HTML>In a message dated 6/18/2001 10:50:59 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
 SaharaTeam_at_aol.com writes:
 
 
 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Impactika_at_aol.com wrote:
 
 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">also with great black shock veins, and a beautiful smooth shiny dark
 crust!
 It is a L6 from Libya (with a name, not a number)    :-)
 </BLOCKQUOTE>
 
 
 Not a number and NOT an official name in the Meteoritical Bulletin, perhaps
 you could explain!
 
 JALU: in fact Nalut, Libya, Northwest Hammada al Hamra near Tunisian
 border,
 multiple finds with no GPS location.
 Perhaps 100 km South of the town of Nalut, if this is true we are near the
 town of Sinawan in the area of the Sinawan meteorites, so Sinawan 005 would
 be a better name. Possibly paired with the first L6 chondrite discovered on
 the area: Sinawan 001 (three pieces of 8.2, 7.2 and 2.15 kg).
 
 Some French people want to extend the NWA prospecting with data lost in
 Libya and on the Hammada al Hamra strewnfield. We ask the Nom. Com. to act
 quickly against such behavior.
 And perhaps A. Carion could explain to us readily what he is trying to
 develop in Libya.
 
 Best regards,
 Richard & Roland Pelisson
 http://www.saharamet.com/
 
 STOP PLUNDERING SAHARAN COUNTRIES! </XMP>
 </BLOCKQUOTE>
 
 Hello List-members,
 
 Sorry to revive an old thread, but I finally got hold of Alain Carion, back
 from the Stainte Marie aux Mines Show and I have a few answers that I would
 like to share with all of you:
 
 JALU:  
 Has nothing to do with Nalut, or Sinawan or Hammada al Hamra. Those locations
 are in WESTERN Libya, close to the Tunisian border.  Jalu was found in
 EASTERN Libya, by the Egyptian border.
 
 CLASSIFICATION / PUBLICATION:
 A piece of Jalu has been in the Musee d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris for about
 a year, and so far Alain has only received a preliminary report.  However
 Alain has all the information (coordinates, total weight, ...etc.) and it
 will be classified, published, submitted to the Nom. Com. as soon as possible.
 
 This is not a new or isolated problem.  Alain has several other meteorites in
 the Musee waiting for their day in the lab.  (One from Niger is really
 interesting. It has metal veins!).
 
 Maybe Dean is right, maybe we need a commercial service to analyze meteorites.
 
 And maybe this is the kind of service a Meteorite Association could sponsor.
 
 Any comments?
 
 Anne Black
 http://www.IMPACTIKA.com
 IMPACTIKA_at_aol.com
 http://www.TheMineralCompany.com </HTML>

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