[meteorite-list] Moroccan lies form the French people.

From: meteorites_at_space.com <meteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:42:00 2004
Message-ID: <20010117160715.14433.cpmta_at_c000.snv.cp.net>

On Tue, 16 January 2001, "Michael Casper" wrote:

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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear list,</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; The French are about to fall. Just sit back
> an enjoy the show. I am here and have some goodies that I'll make available when
> the dust clears.</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; oxoxox, MC</FONT></DIV>
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With the Internet, things will be very interesting as the Moroccan finders discover that they too can become dealers. Already I have had one such person offer me 60+ kilos of meteorites direct from Morocco. The French will be cut out of their game. Steve Schoner; AMS
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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> style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
> <A href="mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" title=farmerm@concentric.net>Mike
> Farmer</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com"
> title=mikewren_at_gilanet.com>Michael Cottingham</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
> href="mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr" title=mich-franco@wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A>
> ; <A href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"
> title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:10
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Moroccan lies
> form the French people.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>This makes me SICK! Franco, YOU ARE A LIAR!!!! I am just back
> from my 4th trip to Morocco. Let me tell everyone on this list the truth.
> THESE FRENCH ARE ALL buying meteorites in Morocco. I have been there enough to
> see what is happening. THEY ARE ALL lying to us. They have been for years. How
> do you think that this large market has formed over there. Bruno Fectay is now
> angry that I just bought an incredible oriented bullet shaped one kilo
> achondrite. He has been trying to get us in trouble in Morocco since almost
> two weeks ago when he found out we were there.&nbsp; They are pissed off at
> the perceived intrusion into "their" territory. Franco wont leave well enough
> alone. We are not the ones lying through our teeth. I have yet to find a
> meteorite in Morocco. Someday maybe, but not yet, nor have I said I have found
> any. All of the others though seem to only find their meteorites. WHAT
> CRAP!!!!! <BR>I have been told by EVERYONE there that ALL&nbsp; of the FRENCH
> dealers BUY meteorites there, Bruno and Carine Fectay, Marc, Luc, and Jim
> Labenne, Franco, and all others have bought and sold meteorites from the
> sellers there, most tell the truth about where they got them, some do not.
> <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Franco,&nbsp; stop with this " holier than though %##$
> ^E$%$# and back off" It is getting old.&nbsp; The French started the whole
> Morocco fiasco, the Americans and Canadians are simply branching out there. So
> go whine to your countrymen about the mess that they started. <BR>I warn any
> people that want to go to Morocco that certain French people are now trying to
> cause problems with customs for any Americans that go for meteorites to
> Morocco. <BR>This is starting to piss me off just a tad Bruno, watch out or
> the problems can be started here in Tucson too. This is my turf,&nbsp; if you
> want to get me in trouble in Africa, I assure you that I can play the same
> game here.
> <P>PS, I had the priveledge of watching the full Lunar eclipse from the Sahara
> Desert, I didnt even know that it was coming, but it sure was awe inspiring.
> Holding meteorites and looking up as the moon grew red and dark, the stars
> brightened, the wind blew....... Wonderful.
> <P>Michael Farmer <BR>Meteorite HUNTER, BUYER, SELLER, and everything in
> between. <BR>Have a nice day!
> <P>Michael Cottingham wrote:
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
> href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com" title=mikewren@gilanet.com>Michael
> Cottingham</A></DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr"
> title=mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A> ; <A
> href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"
> title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A><B>Sent:</B>
> Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:10 PM<B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list]
> METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</DIV>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial><FONT
> size=-1>Franco &amp; All,</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial><FONT
> size=-1>Franco.&nbsp; I was hunting meteorites in Mexico,
> Chile,</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Boliva, Arizona, New
> Mexico, Kansas, Texas,&nbsp; and</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
> size=-1>Nebraska long before you ever saw your first</FONT></FONT><FONT
> face=Arial><FONT size=-1>meteorite.&nbsp; What the hell is your
> problem!</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>If you want to
> attack me in public about selling</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
> size=-1>NWA meteorites you better know your facts.</FONT></FONT><FONT
> face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I have been hunting meteorites, years before
> you</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>ever thought of doing
> such.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>NWA meteorites are
> what they are and I don't</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>sell
> them pretending to be anything else.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
> size=-1>I think everyone on this side of the ocean</FONT></FONT><FONT
> face=Arial><FONT size=-1>knows that we buy them over there!&nbsp; Get a
> life.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Shut your mouth. Know your
> facts.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Who the hell are
> you?&nbsp; I hunt meteorites!</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I
> collect meteorites! I buy meteorites!&nbsp; I sell</FONT></FONT><FONT
> face=Arial><FONT size=-1>meteorites!</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT
> face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Your wasting my time.&nbsp; Next time
> you</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>refer to me in an email you
> better know what</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>the hell you
> are talking about.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Best
> Wishes</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Michael
> Cottingham</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
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> style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
> <A href="mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr"
> title=mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A></DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
> href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com" title=mikewren@gilanet.com>Michael
> Cottingham</A> ; <A href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"
> title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A></DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 08, 2001 2:28
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list]
> METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</DIV>&nbsp;<FONT
> size=-1>Michael</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>I read your post, Nice talk. You
> want to have fun selling unclassified meteorites.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT
> size=-1>NO WAY.&nbsp; On this list, everybody knows that I am against NWA.
> And that I will react each time some retailers try to change a nice
> passion into a basic business. Last year I had hard talks with XOXOXO,
> Yuk.( BTW happy comeback MC. I really think that we all missed you. You
> were drastic in business, funny in posts and firm on your positions) But
> at last I regret that he is not as active as before on&nbsp; the list. he
> represented the hard sale, to my eyes. This year, its is really worse. I
> do not like the way that some present the game and mislead people,
> particularly newbees.</FONT>&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>Sorry man, buying
> meteorites in Morocco is not hunting. You are a retailer. Sorry again for
> all of you guys who hunt themselves for mets and stay silent. This Micheal
> is not a hunter. All hunters will agree.</FONT><FONT size=-1>Hunting is a
> clean job: hunters are alone in front of large bare lands, not dealing 55
> gallons drums of nowhere stones in market place
> backshops.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>There are still amateurs of
> meteorites. Amateurs is a french word which comes from aimer ( to love).
> an amateur is someone who loves what he does. How can you love meteorites
> when you try to have customers gambling on a possible lunar in you stock.
> Meteorites do not deserve your&nbsp; lotery. Hunting on the field is a
> lotery, because no one knows what will be the next find. But nobody pyas
> for it except the hunter. Buying second hand 55 gallons drums when all the
> " souk" buyers&nbsp; have taken their first choice is not offering any
> chance to any collectors. Even for a hundred bucks. It is misleding them.
> And I wait for your true agruties to explain where is the chance to
> receive some valuable meteorite in a stock visited by all the retailers
> that live on&nbsp; our planet.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>Offer&nbsp; true
> first hand material. And the only way to be sure of meteorite origin is to
> pick them up yourself from the ground.But as I said last year, truth is
> hard to tell, but much easier than any pseudo omission.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT
> size=-1>Have them analysed, find really where they come from, cross the
> border, go to Algeria, to Mauritania, bring back true photos, GPS
> positions and stop the NWA game.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>So
> long,</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>Shame on NWAs and on all involved in
> them.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>True best wishes to
> authentic hunters. They will recognize
> themsleves.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT
> size=-1>FRANCO</FONT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>&nbsp;<B><FONT
> face=Arial>----Message d'origine-----</FONT></B></FONT> <BR><FONT
> face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>De : </B>Michael Cottingham &lt;<A
> href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com">mikewren@gilanet.com</A>&gt;</FONT></FONT>
> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B> : </B><A
> href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A>
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> href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A>&gt;</FONT></FONT>
> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>Date : </B>mercredi 10 janvier 2001
> 23:17</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>Objet :
> </B>[meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</FONT></FONT>
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