[meteorite-list] Moroccan lies form the French people.
From: meteorites_at_space.com <meteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:42:00 2004 Message-ID: <20010117160715.14433.cpmta_at_c000.snv.cp.net> On Tue, 16 January 2001, "Michael Casper" wrote: > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> > <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear list,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> The French are about to fall. Just sit back > an enjoy the show. I am here and have some goodies that I'll make available when > the dust clears.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> oxoxox, MC</FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> With the Internet, things will be very interesting as the Moroccan finders discover that they too can become dealers. Already I have had one such person offer me 60+ kilos of meteorites direct from Morocco. The French will be cut out of their game. Steve Schoner; AMS > <BLOCKQUOTE > style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > <DIV > style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> > <A href="mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" title=farmerm@concentric.net>Mike > Farmer</A> </DIV> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com" > title=mikewren_at_gilanet.com>Michael Cottingham</A> </DIV> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A > href="mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr" title=mich-franco@wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A> > ; <A href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com" > title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A> > </DIV> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:10 > AM</DIV> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Moroccan lies > form the French people.</DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV>This makes me SICK! Franco, YOU ARE A LIAR!!!! I am just back > from my 4th trip to Morocco. Let me tell everyone on this list the truth. > THESE FRENCH ARE ALL buying meteorites in Morocco. I have been there enough to > see what is happening. THEY ARE ALL lying to us. They have been for years. How > do you think that this large market has formed over there. Bruno Fectay is now > angry that I just bought an incredible oriented bullet shaped one kilo > achondrite. He has been trying to get us in trouble in Morocco since almost > two weeks ago when he found out we were there. They are pissed off at > the perceived intrusion into "their" territory. Franco wont leave well enough > alone. We are not the ones lying through our teeth. I have yet to find a > meteorite in Morocco. Someday maybe, but not yet, nor have I said I have found > any. All of the others though seem to only find their meteorites. WHAT > CRAP!!!!! <BR>I have been told by EVERYONE there that ALL of the FRENCH > dealers BUY meteorites there, Bruno and Carine Fectay, Marc, Luc, and Jim > Labenne, Franco, and all others have bought and sold meteorites from the > sellers there, most tell the truth about where they got them, some do not. > <BR> Franco, stop with this " holier than though %##$ > ^E$%$# and back off" It is getting old. The French started the whole > Morocco fiasco, the Americans and Canadians are simply branching out there. So > go whine to your countrymen about the mess that they started. <BR>I warn any > people that want to go to Morocco that certain French people are now trying to > cause problems with customs for any Americans that go for meteorites to > Morocco. <BR>This is starting to piss me off just a tad Bruno, watch out or > the problems can be started here in Tucson too. This is my turf, if you > want to get me in trouble in Africa, I assure you that I can play the same > game here. > <P>PS, I had the priveledge of watching the full Lunar eclipse from the Sahara > Desert, I didnt even know that it was coming, but it sure was awe inspiring. > Holding meteorites and looking up as the moon grew red and dark, the stars > brightened, the wind blew....... Wonderful. > <P>Michael Farmer <BR>Meteorite HUNTER, BUYER, SELLER, and everything in > between. <BR>Have a nice day! > <P>Michael Cottingham wrote: > <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> > <STYLE></STYLE> > > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- > <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A > href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com" title=mikewren@gilanet.com>Michael > Cottingham</A></DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr" > title=mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A> ; <A > href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com" > title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A><B>Sent:</B> > Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:10 PM<B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] > METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</DIV> <FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>Franco & All,</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>Franco. I was hunting meteorites in Mexico, > Chile,</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Boliva, Arizona, New > Mexico, Kansas, Texas, and</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>Nebraska long before you ever saw your first</FONT></FONT><FONT > face=Arial><FONT size=-1>meteorite. What the hell is your > problem!</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>If you want to > attack me in public about selling</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>NWA meteorites you better know your facts.</FONT></FONT><FONT > face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I have been hunting meteorites, years before > you</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>ever thought of doing > such.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>NWA meteorites are > what they are and I don't</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>sell > them pretending to be anything else.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>I think everyone on this side of the ocean</FONT></FONT><FONT > face=Arial><FONT size=-1>knows that we buy them over there! Get a > life.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Shut your mouth. Know your > facts.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Who the hell are > you? I hunt meteorites!</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I > collect meteorites! I buy meteorites! I sell</FONT></FONT><FONT > face=Arial><FONT size=-1>meteorites!</FONT></FONT> <FONT > face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Your wasting my time. Next time > you</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>refer to me in an email you > better know what</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>the hell you > are talking about.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Best > Wishes</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Michael > Cottingham</FONT></FONT> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr > style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> > <DIV > style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> > <A href="mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr" > title=mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A></DIV> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A > href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com" title=mikewren@gilanet.com>Michael > Cottingham</A> ; <A href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com" > title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A></DIV> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 08, 2001 2:28 > AM</DIV> > <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] > METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</DIV> <FONT > size=-1>Michael</FONT> <FONT size=-1>I read your post, Nice talk. You > want to have fun selling unclassified meteorites.</FONT> <FONT > size=-1>NO WAY. On this list, everybody knows that I am against NWA. > And that I will react each time some retailers try to change a nice > passion into a basic business. Last year I had hard talks with XOXOXO, > Yuk.( BTW happy comeback MC. I really think that we all missed you. You > were drastic in business, funny in posts and firm on your positions) But > at last I regret that he is not as active as before on the list. he > represented the hard sale, to my eyes. This year, its is really worse. I > do not like the way that some present the game and mislead people, > particularly newbees.</FONT> <FONT size=-1>Sorry man, buying > meteorites in Morocco is not hunting. You are a retailer. Sorry again for > all of you guys who hunt themselves for mets and stay silent. This Micheal > is not a hunter. All hunters will agree.</FONT><FONT size=-1>Hunting is a > clean job: hunters are alone in front of large bare lands, not dealing 55 > gallons drums of nowhere stones in market place > backshops.</FONT> <FONT size=-1>There are still amateurs of > meteorites. Amateurs is a french word which comes from aimer ( to love). > an amateur is someone who loves what he does. How can you love meteorites > when you try to have customers gambling on a possible lunar in you stock. > Meteorites do not deserve your lotery. Hunting on the field is a > lotery, because no one knows what will be the next find. But nobody pyas > for it except the hunter. Buying second hand 55 gallons drums when all the > " souk" buyers have taken their first choice is not offering any > chance to any collectors. Even for a hundred bucks. It is misleding them. > And I wait for your true agruties to explain where is the chance to > receive some valuable meteorite in a stock visited by all the retailers > that live on our planet.</FONT> <FONT size=-1>Offer true > first hand material. And the only way to be sure of meteorite origin is to > pick them up yourself from the ground.But as I said last year, truth is > hard to tell, but much easier than any pseudo omission.</FONT> <FONT > size=-1>Have them analysed, find really where they come from, cross the > border, go to Algeria, to Mauritania, bring back true photos, GPS > positions and stop the NWA game.</FONT> <FONT size=-1>So > long,</FONT> <FONT size=-1>Shame on NWAs and on all involved in > them.</FONT> <FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>True best wishes to > authentic hunters. They will recognize > themsleves.</FONT></FONT> <FONT > size=-1>FRANCO</FONT> <FONT size=-1> <B><FONT > face=Arial>----Message d'origine-----</FONT></B></FONT> <BR><FONT > face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>De : </B>Michael Cottingham <<A > href="mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com">mikewren@gilanet.com</A>></FONT></FONT> > <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>À : </B><A > href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A> > <<A > href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A>></FONT></FONT> > <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>Date : </B>mercredi 10 janvier 2001 > 23:17</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>Objet : > </B>[meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</FONT></FONT> > <BR> > <BLOCKQUOTE > style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><FONT > face=Arial><FONT size=-1>MICHAEL COTTINGHAM > METEORITES</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>PO BOX > 727</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>SILVER CITY, NEW > MEXICO</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>88062</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>505-535-2307</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT > size=-1>Cellular: > 505-590-1542</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ___________________________________________________________________ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. 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