[meteorite-list] Moroccan lies form the French people.
From: Michael Casper <Michael_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:42:00 2004 Message-ID: <001301c08014$483c8180$0300a8c0_at_Domain> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C07FD1.39A3C360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear list, The French are about to fall. Just sit back an enjoy the show. I am = here and have some goodies that I'll make available when the dust = clears. oxoxox, MC ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Farmer=20 To: Michael Cottingham=20 Cc: wanadoo ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Moroccan lies form the French people. This makes me SICK! Franco, YOU ARE A LIAR!!!! I am just back from my = 4th trip to Morocco. Let me tell everyone on this list the truth. THESE = FRENCH ARE ALL buying meteorites in Morocco. I have been there enough to = see what is happening. THEY ARE ALL lying to us. They have been for = years. How do you think that this large market has formed over there. = Bruno Fectay is now angry that I just bought an incredible oriented = bullet shaped one kilo achondrite. He has been trying to get us in = trouble in Morocco since almost two weeks ago when he found out we were = there. They are pissed off at the perceived intrusion into "their" = territory. Franco wont leave well enough alone. We are not the ones = lying through our teeth. I have yet to find a meteorite in Morocco. = Someday maybe, but not yet, nor have I said I have found any. All of the = others though seem to only find their meteorites. WHAT CRAP!!!!!=20 I have been told by EVERYONE there that ALL of the FRENCH dealers BUY = meteorites there, Bruno and Carine Fectay, Marc, Luc, and Jim Labenne, = Franco, and all others have bought and sold meteorites from the sellers = there, most tell the truth about where they got them, some do not.=20 Franco, stop with this " holier than though %##$ ^E$%$# and back = off" It is getting old. The French started the whole Morocco fiasco, = the Americans and Canadians are simply branching out there. So go whine = to your countrymen about the mess that they started.=20 I warn any people that want to go to Morocco that certain French = people are now trying to cause problems with customs for any Americans = that go for meteorites to Morocco.=20 This is starting to piss me off just a tad Bruno, watch out or the = problems can be started here in Tucson too. This is my turf, if you = want to get me in trouble in Africa, I assure you that I can play the = same game here.=20 PS, I had the priveledge of watching the full Lunar eclipse from the = Sahara Desert, I didnt even know that it was coming, but it sure was awe = inspiring. Holding meteorites and looking up as the moon grew red and = dark, the stars brightened, the wind blew....... Wonderful.=20 Michael Farmer=20 Meteorite HUNTER, BUYER, SELLER, and everything in between.=20 Have a nice day!=20 Michael Cottingham wrote:=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Cottingham To: wanadoo ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.comSent: Wednesday, = January 10, 2001 6:10 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE = PART FOUR Last One Franco & All, Franco. I was hunting meteorites in Mexico, = Chile,Boliva, Arizona, New Mexico, Kansas, Texas, andNebraska long = before you ever saw your firstmeteorite. What the hell is your problem! = If you want to attack me in public about sellingNWA meteorites you = better know your facts.I have been hunting meteorites, years before = youever thought of doing such. NWA meteorites are what they are and I = don'tsell them pretending to be anything else.I think everyone on this = side of the oceanknows that we buy them over there! Get a life.Shut = your mouth. Know your facts. Who the hell are you? I hunt meteorites!I = collect meteorites! I buy meteorites! I sellmeteorites! Your wasting my = time. Next time yourefer to me in an email you better know whatthe hell = you are talking about. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: wanadoo To: Michael Cottingham ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One Michael I read your post, Nice talk. You want to have fun selling = unclassified meteorites. NO WAY. On this list, everybody knows that I = am against NWA. And that I will react each time some retailers try to = change a nice passion into a basic business. Last year I had hard talks = with XOXOXO, Yuk.( BTW happy comeback MC. I really think that we all = missed you. You were drastic in business, funny in posts and firm on = your positions) But at last I regret that he is not as active as before = on the list. he represented the hard sale, to my eyes. This year, its = is really worse. I do not like the way that some present the game and = mislead people, particularly newbees. Sorry man, buying meteorites in = Morocco is not hunting. You are a retailer. Sorry again for all of you = guys who hunt themselves for mets and stay silent. This Micheal is not a = hunter. All hunters will agree.Hunting is a clean job: hunters are alone = in front of large bare lands, not dealing 55 gallons drums of nowhere = stones in market place backshops. There are still amateurs of = meteorites. Amateurs is a french word which comes from aimer ( to love). = an amateur is someone who loves what he does. How can you love = meteorites when you try to have customers gambling on a possible lunar = in you stock. Meteorites do not deserve your lotery. Hunting on the = field is a lotery, because no one knows what will be the next find. But = nobody pyas for it except the hunter. Buying second hand 55 gallons = drums when all the " souk" buyers have taken their first choice is not = offering any chance to any collectors. Even for a hundred bucks. It is = misleding them. And I wait for your true agruties to explain where is = the chance to receive some valuable meteorite in a stock visited by all = the retailers that live on our planet. Offer true first hand material. = And the only way to be sure of meteorite origin is to pick them up = yourself from the ground.But as I said last year, truth is hard to tell, = but much easier than any pseudo omission. Have them analysed, find = really where they come from, cross the border, go to Algeria, to = Mauritania, bring back true photos, GPS positions and stop the NWA game. = So long, Shame on NWAs and on all involved in them. True best wishes to = authentic hunters. They will recognize themsleves. FRANCO = ----Message d'origine-----=20 De : Michael Cottingham <mikewren_at_gilanet.com>=20 =C0 : meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com = <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>=20 Date : mercredi 10 janvier 2001 23:17=20 Objet : [meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One=20 =20 MICHAEL COTTINGHAM METEORITESPO BOX 727SILVER CITY, NEW = MEXICO88062 505-535-2307 Cellular: 505-590-1542 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C07FD1.39A3C360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear list,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The French are about to fall. = Just sit back=20 an enjoy the show. I am here and have some goodies that I'll make = available when=20 the dust clears.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> oxoxox, MC</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" = title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net>Mike=20 Farmer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com"=20 title=3Dmikewren_at_gilanet.com>Michael Cottingham</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr" = title=3Dmich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A>=20 ; <A href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2001 = 11:10=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = Moroccan lies=20 form the French people.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>This makes me SICK! Franco, YOU ARE A LIAR!!!! I am = just back=20 from my 4th trip to Morocco. Let me tell everyone on this list the = truth.=20 THESE FRENCH ARE ALL buying meteorites in Morocco. I have been there = enough to=20 see what is happening. THEY ARE ALL lying to us. They have been for = years. How=20 do you think that this large market has formed over there. Bruno = Fectay is now=20 angry that I just bought an incredible oriented bullet shaped one kilo = achondrite. He has been trying to get us in trouble in Morocco since = almost=20 two weeks ago when he found out we were there. They are pissed = off at=20 the perceived intrusion into "their" territory. Franco wont leave well = enough=20 alone. We are not the ones lying through our teeth. I have yet to find = a=20 meteorite in Morocco. Someday maybe, but not yet, nor have I said I = have found=20 any. All of the others though seem to only find their meteorites. WHAT = CRAP!!!!! <BR>I have been told by EVERYONE there that ALL of the = FRENCH=20 dealers BUY meteorites there, Bruno and Carine Fectay, Marc, Luc, and = Jim=20 Labenne, Franco, and all others have bought and sold meteorites from = the=20 sellers there, most tell the truth about where they got them, some do = not.=20 <BR> Franco, stop with this " holier than = though %##$=20 ^E$%$# and back off" It is getting old. The French started the = whole=20 Morocco fiasco, the Americans and Canadians are simply branching out = there. So=20 go whine to your countrymen about the mess that they started. <BR>I = warn any=20 people that want to go to Morocco that certain French people are now = trying to=20 cause problems with customs for any Americans that go for meteorites = to=20 Morocco. <BR>This is starting to piss me off just a tad Bruno, watch = out or=20 the problems can be started here in Tucson too. This is my turf, = if you=20 want to get me in trouble in Africa, I assure you that I can play the = same=20 game here.=20 <P>PS, I had the priveledge of watching the full Lunar eclipse from = the Sahara=20 Desert, I didnt even know that it was coming, but it sure was awe = inspiring.=20 Holding meteorites and looking up as the moon grew red and dark, the = stars=20 brightened, the wind blew....... Wonderful.=20 <P>Michael Farmer <BR>Meteorite HUNTER, BUYER, SELLER, and everything = in=20 between. <BR>Have a nice day!=20 <P>Michael Cottingham wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"> <STYLE></STYLE> =20 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> = <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com" = title=3Dmikewren_at_gilanet.com>Michael=20 Cottingham</A></DIV><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr"=20 title=3Dmich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A><B>Sent:</B>=20 Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:10 PM<B>Subject:</B> Re: = [meteorite-list]=20 METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</DIV> <FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>Franco & All,</FONT></FONT> <FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>Franco. I was hunting meteorites in Mexico,=20 Chile,</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Boliva, = Arizona, New=20 Mexico, Kansas, Texas, and</FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>Nebraska long before you ever saw your = first</FONT></FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>meteorite. What the hell is your=20 problem!</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>If = you want to=20 attack me in public about selling</FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>NWA meteorites you better know your = facts.</FONT></FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>I have been hunting meteorites, years = before=20 you</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>ever thought of = doing=20 such.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>NWA = meteorites are=20 what they are and I don't</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D-1>sell=20 them pretending to be anything else.</FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>I think everyone on this side of the = ocean</FONT></FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>knows that we buy them over = there! Get a=20 life.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Shut your = mouth. Know your=20 facts.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Who the = hell are=20 you? I hunt meteorites!</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D-1>I=20 collect meteorites! I buy meteorites! I = sell</FONT></FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>meteorites!</FONT></FONT> <FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Your wasting my time. Next time=20 you</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>refer to me in = an email you=20 better know what</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>the = hell you=20 are talking about.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D-1>Best=20 Wishes</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Michael = Cottingham</FONT></FONT> =20 <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr"=20 title=3Dmich-franco_at_wanadoo.fr>wanadoo</A></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com" = title=3Dmikewren_at_gilanet.com>Michael=20 Cottingham</A> ; <A = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 08, = 2001 2:28=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = [meteorite-list]=20 METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One</DIV> <FONT=20 size=3D-1>Michael</FONT> <FONT size=3D-1>I read your post, = Nice talk. You=20 want to have fun selling unclassified = meteorites.</FONT> <FONT=20 size=3D-1>NO WAY. On this list, everybody knows that I am = against NWA.=20 And that I will react each time some retailers try to change a = nice=20 passion into a basic business. Last year I had hard talks with = XOXOXO,=20 Yuk.( BTW happy comeback MC. I really think that we all missed = you. You=20 were drastic in business, funny in posts and firm on your = positions) But=20 at last I regret that he is not as active as before on the = list. he=20 represented the hard sale, to my eyes. This year, its is really = worse. I=20 do not like the way that some present the game and mislead people, = particularly newbees.</FONT> <FONT size=3D-1>Sorry man, = buying=20 meteorites in Morocco is not hunting. You are a retailer. Sorry = again for=20 all of you guys who hunt themselves for mets and stay silent. This = Micheal=20 is not a hunter. All hunters will agree.</FONT><FONT = size=3D-1>Hunting is a=20 clean job: hunters are alone in front of large bare lands, not = dealing 55=20 gallons drums of nowhere stones in market place=20 backshops.</FONT> <FONT size=3D-1>There are still amateurs of = meteorites. Amateurs is a french word which comes from aimer ( to = love).=20 an amateur is someone who loves what he does. How can you love = meteorites=20 when you try to have customers gambling on a possible lunar in you = stock.=20 Meteorites do not deserve your lotery. Hunting on the field = is a=20 lotery, because no one knows what will be the next find. But = nobody pyas=20 for it except the hunter. Buying second hand 55 gallons drums when = all the=20 " souk" buyers have taken their first choice is not offering = any=20 chance to any collectors. Even for a hundred bucks. It is = misleding them.=20 And I wait for your true agruties to explain where is the chance = to=20 receive some valuable meteorite in a stock visited by all the = retailers=20 that live on our planet.</FONT> <FONT = size=3D-1>Offer true=20 first hand material. And the only way to be sure of meteorite = origin is to=20 pick them up yourself from the ground.But as I said last year, = truth is=20 hard to tell, but much easier than any pseudo = omission.</FONT> <FONT=20 size=3D-1>Have them analysed, find really where they come from, = cross the=20 border, go to Algeria, to Mauritania, bring back true photos, GPS=20 positions and stop the NWA game.</FONT> <FONT size=3D-1>So=20 long,</FONT> <FONT size=3D-1>Shame on NWAs and on all = involved in=20 them.</FONT> <FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D-1>True best = wishes to=20 authentic hunters. They will recognize=20 themsleves.</FONT></FONT> <FONT=20 size=3D-1>FRANCO</FONT> <FONT = size=3D-1> <B><FONT=20 face=3DArial>----Message d'origine-----</FONT></B></FONT> = <BR><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><B>De : </B>Michael Cottingham <<A = = href=3D"mailto:mikewren_at_gilanet.com">mikewren@gilanet.com</A>></FONT><= /FONT>=20 <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><B>=C0 : </B><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>></FONT></FONT>=20 <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><B>Date : </B>mercredi 10 = janvier 2001=20 23:17</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D-1><B>Objet :=20 </B>[meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last = One</FONT></FONT>=20 <BR> =20 <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>MICHAEL COTTINGHAM=20 METEORITES</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>PO = BOX=20 727</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>SILVER CITY, = NEW=20 MEXICO</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>88062</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>505-535-2307</FONT></FONT> <FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1>Cellular: =20 = 505-590-1542</FONT></FONT>  = ; </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT= E></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C07FD1.39A3C360-- Received on Tue 16 Jan 2001 06:30:15 PM PST |
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