[meteorite-list] meteorite-noise mailing list (was: UPDATED TUCSON REPORT??)

From: John Gwilliam <jkgdiver_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:41:07 2004
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010207074230.0096ba70_at_pop.primenet.com>

Julien and All,
Actually, this verbal ping pong match with Mr. Casper on one side of the
table and everyone else on the other is very pertinent to this list. In
order for the collecting community to be informed about what's really
happening in Tucson, the truth must be stated. Like Jim Strope and Mike
Farmer, I have spent a lot of time visiting the other meteorite dealers and
collectors. After spending 7 of the past 11 days in Tucson (Good fortune
places my home just 100 miles north) I can assure you that the meteorite
market is alive and well. Albeit, alive and well doesn't mean it is static
and without change.

For those of you who don't know what to believe about prices in Tucson,
simply go back several days and read Mr. Casper's posts. Remember the
one stating that the new lunar (Farmer/Strope) was selling for $350/g?
Poppycock or poppin' pills - call it what you like, it simply isn't
true. If you want the truth, at least listen to those that were actually
there.

With the increasing amount of new lunar and martin material entering the
market, prices are adjusting and trying to find a place to
settle. Surprisingly, none of the "new baby" of the show ( the new
"Farmer/Strope" lunar) was offered openly although there was a lot of
demand for it. The owners of this meteorite are keeping their cards close
to their vests. It appears they have learned a valuable lesson after
watching the blunders of last year. The tone of the show is "what's new?"
while those meteorites that basked in the lime light last year are "old news".

It was evident at this years show that historic meteorites and witnessed
falls are holding their own. It appears that quality over quantity is
becoming the standard.

Were there good deals to be found in Tucson? Absolutely. This is one of
the reasons we all make the pilgramage

At 11:15 AM 2/7/01 +0100, Julien.Courtois_at_gr.admin.ch wrote:
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>The meteorite-noise "moderator"
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Casper [mailto:Michael_at_caspercoin.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:03 AM
> > To: Charlie; eldorado_at_conwaycorp.net
> > Cc: Mike Farmer; Tim Heitz; meteorite-list
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] UPDATED TUCSON REPORT??
> >
> >
> > Thank you Mr. Devine! You up late too!
> >
> > oxoxoxo, MC
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Charlie <moonrock25_at_webtv.net>
> > To: <eldorado_at_conwaycorp.net>
> > Cc: Michael Casper <Michael_at_caspercoin.com>; Mike Farmer
> > <farmerm_at_concentric.net>; Tim Heitz <midwestmeteor@earthlink.net>;
> > meteorite-list <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] UPDATED TUCSON REPORT??
> >
> >
> > > I wonder how many new or at least relatively inexperienced
> > collectors on
> > > this list are in a quandry as to who to believe in this matter?
> > > Well, you may believe Michael Farmer when he says Michael
> > Casper needs
> > > help. This help should be psychiatric in nature. There is
> > really only
> > > one reason Mr. Casper posts to this list, and that is to
> > upset whoever
> > > he happens to be targeting at the time. He apparently takes great
> > > satisfaction in this, and really deserves our pity more
> > than anything
> > > else. When he is someday old and grey, and surveys the ruins of his
> > > life,
> > > perhaps then he will finally regret not having exorcised his inner
> > > demons. I would not wish this man's karma on anyone,
> > himself included.
> > >
> > > -Charlie Devine
> > >
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Received on Wed 07 Feb 2001 10:28:45 AM PST