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Re: Legally.blah blah...Heres what to do!!!

Its funny that you should bring up stamps and coins and the problems of
fakes with them.  I happen to collect ancient coins, and there is a debate
going on right now in the ancient coin community in regards to a company
that wants to "slab" ancient coins for people.  That would involve
authenticating, grading, and sealing the coins up tight.  Sounds like a good
idea?  Well, the majority of collectors, about 95% are totally against it.
Why?  Opinions vary on coins authentication and grading vary.  In collecting
ancient coins, I rely on dealers reputations, return policies, reference
material, and if I'm going to sink a large amount of money into one coin, I
would send it to one of the premier ancient coin authorities, David Sear,
and have him authenticate it.  Here is my suggestions for some enterprising
entrepreneur.....Print up a small booklet, local Kinkos could probably do
it.   List everything in regards to detecting fake meteorites.  Show
examples of fakes.  Cover everything from magnets to porosity.  Even make it
simple as to instructing people into verifing return policies.  Give the
address of Rubin at UCLA and some others people who can test it.  Stick it
on ebay, and sell them at a modest profit.  It should go over well I would
think and would be out there for the new beginners.

Joel
-----Original Message-----
From: dean bessey <deanbessey@hotmail.com>
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Legally Powerless trade Organizations


>>Good idea in general, but who is going to carry the liability insurance
>>when the members get sued for slander for falsely accusing a seller?  It
>>would happen, just a matter of time and numbers.  If you don't think this
>>is possible, you really need to look at the world we live in today.......
>>
>This is a serious concern all right. In fact I suspect that that is
probably
>the single reason that a group has not been formed even though we have been
>talking about it for many months now. I dont have an answer to that one.
>Maybe somebody on this list has close ties to other trade organizations or
>know somebody on boards of executives of them. The societies that I mention
>in todays earlier e-mail about stamps and coins surely have this problem
>also. Finding out how they deal with that problem would probably help the
>forming of a meteorite group a lot.
>I think that I should comment on a statement made by Joel yesterday also -
>about people having to do their own work in order to avoid being ripped of.
>That is so true. All you have to do is look at the investment industry (Of
>which is my profession) to see the problems of government (Or in that case
a
>government sanctioned department) to see the problems that arise when an
>organization tries to protect consumers from themselves.
>If a meteorite organization does get started it will be a marketing and
>information organization. More importantly it will be a voice by collectors
>and dealers (A true trade organization) and not a voice by scientists and
>Nasa which have a different agenda and is the only meteorite voice that
>there is right now. (Considering Canadas draconian meteorite laws I have
>problems with that to but I wont discuss them here - not now anyway) It
wont
>be a "policing organization" as such. Considering the lack of financial
>resources available to it that is the most that it could ask for anyway.
Any
>organization will surly fail if it tries to solve all of the problems. Even
>the highly successful organizations that I mentioned this morning is not a
>"policing" organization - they are collector service organizations, but
they
>do investegate fraudulant activities and work closely with the police.
>What is really needed of course is to set up a non-profit government
>sanctioned organization which should not be to hard - and the publicity
>would not hurt either.
>Anyway thats much more than my two cents worth again
>Sincerely
>DEAN
>
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