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Legally Powerless trade Organizations
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- Subject: Legally Powerless trade Organizations
- From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey@hotmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:40:55 PST
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I thought that some list members might be interested in these two sites
which are totally unrelated to meteorites. The first one is the site of the
american philatelic society and the second one is american numismatic
society. These represent two societies that are among the worlds largest
resource organizations for stamp collectors and coin collectors.
Particularly look at membership and code of ethics in the philatelic society
and its reference to authtenticity and their comment that "membership is a
privelidge and not a right". Members have to be approved and voted on before
they get membership. True their biggest job is marketing the hobby but many
efforts are made (More so in stamps than coins because stamps are easier to
fake than coins and there are many more fake ones around - there is even a
large segment of collectors that collect fake stamps) to ensure that the
hobby is not filled with criminals. They work closely with the fbi (Which by
the way has a special fraud stamp devision) and help out and report, as will
as be a resourse for information. I know of one individual that had a court
order specifically prohibiting him from dealing in stamps for a 10 year
peroid. Your membership in the APS is a valuable commodity (Just look at an
eBay type online auction site www.stampauctions.com and see how many people
puts their aps membership number as reference). Complaints are always
available for viewing.
Do they have any real power? (Other than to kick somebody out of the
society) Not one bit. Nothing prevents a criminal from setting up shop and
selling stamps outside of the scope of the APS (And many do). However, When
the American Philatelic Society complains the FBI listens.
I wont even get into powerless societies dealing with ancient artifacts and
the efforts they go through and the clout that they have. Interpol has a
division on that that has a budget bigger than some third world governments
and they certaintly use powerless societies as a resource. Stolen artifacts
may be more of interest but if somebody sold a very expensive item to a
museum that was a fake Interpol and the FBI would be interested.
There are societies around for almost anything. You could surely find a
needleworking society or a volkswagon bug club in many major cities. The
biggest job of any society is a resource group as well as marketing group.
However the FBI or local police will probably listen if a blatently
fraudulent or criminal act is reported by an official organization than by
one individual.
Meteorites need a organization such as this. (Remember that Marketing also
means information - one of which makes new colectors knowledgable, which is
in short supply in the meteorite community) There is no money to start it so
work will have to be done by volunteers but almost any organization
origionally got its start like that.
Dont knock an organization just because it has no real legal power.
Look at this website:http://www.west.net/~stamps1/aps.html
One of the links from it here is
interesting:http://www.stamps.org/aps/aboutaps/ethics.htm
Then look at this site:
http://www.amnumsoc.org/
Of course no matter what you do, there will always be criminals. No matter
what resources, the APS, FBI, Interpol, and The US government puts into it
the stamp hobby will always have con-artists.
Unlike meteorites though, the stamp hobby has a resource group that people
can go to for unbiased information and help - not to mention a group that
the FBI can (And do) use for help. Lets not forget the marketing and
information importance either. More collectors means a better hobby for all.
Sincerely
DEAN BESSEY
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