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"NEW" DAG489

You are right. If somebody found more Zagami and it was not given a 
different name it would not be considered a new meteorite. If for some 
reason it was deemed for some reason by the meteor naming people that it 
should have a different name though I think that people would want both in 
their collection. Lets get a ruling from the meteor naming organization. 
What is the next meteorite going to be - the 14th or the 15th? This does 
bring up an interesting  point because there is always debate about pairing 
of meteorites. Many of the DAg and sahara ones are beleived to be paired but 
does have a different history so is somehow different. I still dont think 
that calling DAG489 the "newest" is wrong but if somebody marketed DAG476 as 
the newest I think that everybody would consider that wrong. No matter which 
is correct buyers would not want DAG476 if buying DAG489.
As to the other e-mail posting: Looks like I lost the election to be called 
"The Mars Man". I do have 5 different Mars rocks (Counting both DAG476 and 
DAG489) and soon I will have 6 as I bought a Nakhla from the King collection 
that I expect to arrive next week so I will soon have 6 mars rocks for sale 
in micromounts. Just call me runner up (But you can still feel free to buy 
some from me)
Cheers
DEAN BESSEY
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/


>From: "J. Warren" <warr@arn.net>
>To: "dean bessey" <deantemp@hotmail.com>,        
><meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: "NEW" DAG489 Mars rock. At a 15% Discount to.
>Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:58:25 -0500
>
>I saw the same article listing it as the 14th martian meteorite, but i
>believe that was before there was conclusive evidence that it was paired
>with Dag 476.  As i was asking in my first post, i was thinking that there
>is now conclusive evidence that it is with Dag 476, which it is.  If a
>person went back to the original place that Zagami fell, found a fragment 
>of
>zagami there, would that make it a new 15th Mars meteorite?  Or if i went 
>to
>Meteor Crater and found piece of Canyon Diablo, would that make it a "new
>iron"?  Just some food for thought, but i honestly think that if people 
>knew
>that it was just a piece of Dag 476, a very weathered piece of Dag 476, 
>they
>wouldn't be so quick to buy it, and that is why its being marketed as a NEW
>14th martian meteorite with no mention of Dag 476.  But it is also a buyers
>responsibility to do some research.
>
>                                                             Joel "The 
>Judge"
>Warren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dean bessey <deantemp@hotmail.com>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
><meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 6:01 PM
>Subject: "NEW" DAG489 Mars rock. At a 15% Discount to.
>
>
> >Yes, I am offering DAG489 on eBay (As well as on my website:
> >www.meteoriteshop.com), and yes, I am marketing it as a new meteorite. 
>Like
> >many meteorites this one is beleived to be paired with another one - in
>this
> >case DAG476). If you look at Nasa'a website it is listed as the 14th
> >meteorite (http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/index.html) and the BBC news 
>artical
> >which has a link from the site indicates it as the 14th, even though it 
>is
> >indicated that it is possibly paired with another one.
> >This meteorite even has an officialy different name. To listen to  the
> >earlier agruement listed on this mailing list I (Or anybody else) could
>sell
> >DAG476 for DAG489 (or vice versa) and it be OK which of course it is not. 
>I
> >think that people would be upset if they received DAG476 when they 
>ordered
> >DAG489. The meteor naming organization feels that it is different enough 
>to
> >segregate it with a different name. That in itself makes it different.
> >I ask you this question: If a new meteorite from Mars was discovered
> >tomorrow would it be known as the 14th or the 15th? I beleive that it 
>would
> >be known as the 15th. Wither or not they are from the same fall, DAG476 
>and
> >DAG489 will always be considered different. As such no Mars collection is
> >totally complete without both DAG476 and DAG489.
> >SINCE I WANT TO HELP EVERYBODY COMPLETE THEIR MARS COLLECTION I AM GOING 
>TO
> >OFFER A 15% DISCOUNT TO READERS OF THIS LIST FOR ANY DAG476 or DAG489
> >PURCHASED FROM MY WEBSITE FROM NOW UNTIL TUESDAY. 
>(www.meteoriteshop.com).
> >You will get the one that you ordered. No substituting DAG476 for DAG489 
>or
> >DAG489 for DAG476.
> >While I am at it the 15% discount will also apply to all meteorites 
>listed
> >on my website from now until Tuesday - including the Zagami and THE big 
>5MM
> >piece of Shergotty.
> >I will be putting up more DAG400 moon rock shortly also so check back at 
>my
> >site around the middle of the week - my 15% discount will apply to the
> >DAG400 moonrock all week. (I broke up the big piece that I just bought 
>and
> >was going to put my affordable micromounts of DAG400 on my website today
>but
> >unfortunately I ran out of display cases so will have to wait until I can
> >buy more sometime in the next few days.  Oh yes, check out my rare
>Layayette
> >and Shergotty on eBay along with the DAG476, Zagami and DAG489. Just 
>think
> >of me as your Mars meteorite dealer, or just "THE MARS MAN".
> >Cheers
> >DEAN BESSEY
> >
> >
> >
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